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Chat => General => Topic started by: on May 27, 2005, 10:09:34 pm

Title: Hoodies ban.
Post by: on May 27, 2005, 10:09:34 pm

Isn't banning people from wearing hoods going too far.  I mean, it's just fashion isn't it?  Crap fashion but fashion none the less. 

Title: Hoodies ban.
Post by: on May 27, 2005, 10:23:35 pm

Yes, but to use them to hide your identity whilst comitting theft is not on, is it?

Title: Hoodies ban.
Post by: on May 27, 2005, 10:35:36 pm

No it isn't but if peolple do that, then they should be brought to account for theft not wearing a hood. 

Title: Hoodies ban.
Post by: on May 27, 2005, 10:50:46 pm

Yes........but the hood was a means for anonimity. By all means wear what you like but if some abuse the right then it makes sense for safeguards to be in place in certain situations, i.e. don't put the hood up in shops.

Title: Hoodies ban.
Post by: oldspice on May 28, 2005, 09:16:22 am

Well I think it depends on HOW you wear them. For instance, at the college where I teach, I do not allow students to enter the teaching and learning environment (we're not allowed to call it a classroom in Further Ed) wearing caps covered by hoods. It's disrespectful to the purpose of meeting to share learning and ideas.

In an environment such as a shooping centre, people can feel intimidated if the wearing of such clobber is combined by general yobbish behaviour, which it often is. In our shopping centre, people are not allowed in if bare chested - they either accept the rule or go somewhere else. Likewise, many of our pubs won't let you in with trainers, shorts etc. So, fashion it may be, but if shopping centres don't want people wearing such clobber in their buildings - they have a right to ban it. 

Title: Hoodies ban.
Post by: on May 28, 2005, 11:53:40 am

Interesting.  This issue is about the connection between perceived behavioural tendencies based on appearance.  Always a dodgy area.

 

Title: Hoodies ban.
Post by: loulou on May 28, 2005, 04:06:44 pm

Is that why the man in the petrol station goes into panic when I wear my balaclava.

Title: Hoodies ban.
Post by: goldencup on May 28, 2005, 06:24:07 pm

Title: Hoodies ban.
Post by: oldspice on May 28, 2005, 08:00:54 pm

Title: Hoodies ban.
Post by: on May 28, 2005, 09:18:41 pm

Title: Hoodies ban.
Post by: kevvosa on May 30, 2005, 12:39:57 am

Quote from: oldspice

In an environment such as a shooping centre, people can
feel intimidated if the wearing of such clobber is combined by general
yobbish behaviour, which it often is. In our shopping centre, people
are not allowed in if bare chested - they either accept the rule or go
somewhere else. Likewise, many of our pubs won't let you in with
trainers, shorts etc. So, fashion it may be, but if shopping
centres don't want people wearing such clobber in
their buildings - they have a right to ban it. 

So no shorts in summer then? That's just mad.

Title: Hoodies ban.
Post by: on May 30, 2005, 08:28:49 am

Precisely Kev, a good point.

Title: Hoodies ban.
Post by: oldspice on May 30, 2005, 10:35:48 am

No, I did not mean that people in shorts were intimidating. What I actually meant was that there are a variety of dress codes that you have to accept. Hoods worn over baseball caps, combined with yobbish behaviour is intimidating so the banning of such dress is justified. likewise, some shopping centres/pubs etc think shorts and bare chests are too casual and ban people who do not follow the dress code.

Title: Hoodies ban.
Post by: on May 30, 2005, 12:36:44 pm

You know the British on holiday. They are the ones with their football tops on!

Title: Hoodies ban.
Post by: oldspice on May 30, 2005, 01:28:54 pm

Precisely. The British, especially the working class, has lost its taste as far as deseeing is concerned. Years ago, if we went out for the day or travelled on holiday, we wore decent clothes so that people would know you were respectable and decent. As poor as we were, we were never allowed to be scruffy, dirty or dishevelled - even when playing in the street.

Title: Hoodies ban.
Post by: loulou on May 31, 2005, 12:36:49 am

Quote from: paulham

You know the British on holiday. They are the ones with their football tops on!

and their beer bellies hanging over their union jack shorts.

Title: Hoodies ban.
Post by: oldspice on May 31, 2005, 10:09:01 am

 And that's just the women!!

Title: Hoodies ban.
Post by: chocolate chick on May 31, 2005, 01:22:16 pm

I must admit that if I see a group coming towards me with their hoods up I tend to cross the road to avoid walking past them.



I admit that not all people with their hoods up are thugs and out to
cause damage but thats the reputation that fashion craze carries.

Title: Hoodies ban.
Post by: loulou on May 31, 2005, 08:03:48 pm

Me too. I would cross the road.

Title: Hoodies ban.
Post by: goldencup on May 31, 2005, 10:15:14 pm

It's strange though because as I think I said a while ago, the really disreputable ones tend to be ok, it's the groups in the expensive designer gear you have to watch out for!  (At least it is where I live). I'm sure most people would cross the road if they saw my son and his friends because they all have really long hair (dreadlocks etc) and wear studded wristbands, but they're all really nice and only dress like that so nobody gives them any trouble.  Or so they say!

Title: Hoodies ban.
Post by: chocolate chick on June 01, 2005, 11:04:18 am

Quote from: loulou

Me too. I would cross the road.

Just makes me feel a bit safer. I'm just over 5 foot so I don't think I
would be able to look after myself very well if they did start on me.