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Chat => General => Topic started by: DrWho on April 16, 2010, 07:20:59 am

Title: Priministerial debate
Post by: DrWho on April 16, 2010, 07:20:59 am
I thought Brown came out top.  He seemed confident, relaxed and assured.  He also scored several points over Cameron with his jokes about the photos.  Clegg did well I thought.  He delivered his policies with clarity and had a robust style. I had him marginally behind Brown.  Cameron I thought had a stinker.  Scored well on law and order but generally seemed awkward and slightly flustered.
Title: Re: Priministerial debate
Post by: drterror666 on April 16, 2010, 07:32:30 pm
Didn't watch it.  They're all wankers anyway!
Title: Re: Priministerial debate
Post by: oldspice on April 16, 2010, 09:36:21 pm
I thought Clegg did very well - but Brown gets my vote (figuratively speaking). Cameron is a tosser.
Title: Re: Priministerial debate
Post by: Forth Bridges on April 18, 2010, 10:14:38 am
Many OAP want to, well, there call him a slimy See you next Tuesday, and these are nice oap.   
Title: Re: Priministerial debate
Post by: DrWho on April 18, 2010, 01:40:40 pm
Is this code for something?
Title: Re: Priministerial debate
Post by: drterror666 on April 18, 2010, 02:31:21 pm
Er, see you next Tuesday, as in C U Next Tuesday, if you see where I'm going.  I think 623058 is saying that OAP's don't like him very much.
Title: Re: Priministerial debate
Post by: goldencup on April 18, 2010, 07:25:17 pm
lol I've never heard that expression but I like it!
Title: Re: Priministerial debate
Post by: smurfboy on April 20, 2010, 02:51:52 pm
I thought the post-debate analysis was a damn sight more interesting than the debate itself. Clegg did well to get himself noticed, but it's easy to 'win' a debate when the two people you're debating with know very well they need to keep you sweet.
Title: Re: Priministerial debate
Post by: oldspice on April 21, 2010, 06:59:44 am
Clegg is also in the 'fortunate' position of leading a party that has never held power, and cannot therefore be accused of having a record of failure (or achievement for that matter).

This government did a terrible thing when they paticipated in the invasion of Iraq - but then the Tories would have done the same. So, if you consider the Minimum Wage, better equality legislation, Sure Start programmes to help poorly resourced families and communities and a multitude of other things the party has introduced to make life better for everyone, labour has done a good job. That doesn't come cheap - so as as wage earner who cannot wiggle out of p[aying my way through tax breaks, I am slightly worse off.

However, a lot more could have been done by this government to reverse some of the financial relaxations imposed by the last Tory government. If the tough rules on investment and financial dealings that were in place prior to the Tory win in 1979, and which were relaxed by them, were re-introduced at the earliest opportunioty, some of the financial mess we are in now would not have happened. It's important that people understand that both the Tories and Labour must share responsibility for the economic situation that has come about as a result of both parties' actions.

I voted Green in the last election and I am tempted to do so again as they now most closely represent the views and ideals that I hold. However, in doing so, I risk letting the Tories back in so I will be voting Labour. In any case, my local MP is a Tory who thought it was OK for the rest of us to pay for his swimming pool to be cleaned! Many people in this city cannot even afford to take their children swimming, yet he thinkls it's acceptable for those people to share the cost of the pool in his SECOND home. By contrast, the labour candidate has pledged to draw only a living wage as his salary and donate the remainder to worthy causes in the constituancy.
Title: Re: Priministerial debate
Post by: DrWho on April 25, 2010, 04:35:34 pm
The second debate was a closer run thing than the first. The novelty factor enjoyed by Clegg was inevitably diminished - but I thought he held his own.  Brown continued on the 'steady as she goes' approach and still looks the most statesman-like of the three. Cameron had a better debate, with a bit more cut and thrust about him, but is not prime ministerial material imo.  Clegg probably edged in on the night, but with a third debate next week, there's still all to play for.