Chocolate Forum
Chat => General => Topic started by: Gareth76 on April 13, 2009, 10:08:43 am
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I've been doing some research into this new RAW chocolate craze....apparently we have duped for years by large corporate companies (not naming names of course) for years into believing that chocolate is therapeutic....in actual fact it's like them saying "Hey public, it's really good to eat these dairy bulking agents and raw cane sugars....because we mixed it with 20% stripped, heated, treated, chemically altered cocoa mass (probably unethical and standard grade as well) where the people who pick it and peel it, are virtually enslaved in bad working, poorly paid conditions....oh and by the way it's really good for you" (actually it's now a 'zero food' after all that processing, the only buzz you get is from the sugar). So I thought, surely these large multi-million £ industries wouldn't pull a fast one over us...the paying public?! Never......anyway, after trying the RAW chocolate, I can assure you it's great stuff, I eat Radek's RAW Chocolate (I found it on Google), but there are loads out there.....plus they are usually handmade and won't make you addicted as there is no actual cane sugar in there at all....just RAW unprocessed cacao powder, cacao butter and maybe a natural sweetener, or just Goji berries!!
I say let's give back to the big corporations, what they have fed to us for years.....nothing!!
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but cadbury tastes so niiiiiiiiiice...
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I can't live without my fruit and nut.
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Well Lou, meet Gareth76, he can be your new Fruit N nut.
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Heheheh....well I am wired alright, it's that RAW cacao I've been eating....although sometimes my brain receptors go haywire and I get my I's crossed with my E's and vice versa. Well isn't there anyone in here that agrees that these large faceless corporate giants are duping us with unethical 'zero foods' that are directly to blame in part, for the direction that the health of the UK is heading?.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1078962/Warning-diabetes-epidemic-cases-hit-2-5m.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1078962/Warning-diabetes-epidemic-cases-hit-2-5m.html)
Hey...I understand business and they have to protect their bottom-lines.....at what expense though?? The bottom lines (panty lines) of most of the women and men in the UK....you only have to go into your local town to see it....more rolls than a bakery, bingo wings everywhere...a country sat on a health time bomb of increased disease rates, including the big ones, Cancer, Type 2 (Diabetes) and heart disease (some of these diseases can remain undetected for up to 10 years).....yet you always see a nice tanned healthy girl eating a bar on a TV ad...."what a crock!".
I believe the likes of Cadburys are taking with one hand and again taking with the other by retailing Diabetic chocolate and low sugar 'Healthy bars', we are only the pawns in the big corporate game, being played by the suits at the top......wake up peeps...it's time to go back to nature, it's time to go RAW and kick Cadburys where they deserve to be.....in the refuse along with their unethical, unhealthy so called chocolate! (Should be called 'Sugarmilk'). At least the Lilac Cow is more honest....MILKA! :D
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Radek's RAW Chocolate? Stuff that, I'll carry on with my Hotel Chocolat stuff thanks. Not that you're a rep for Radek's RAW Chocolate or anything...
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Heheee....Yeah just took a look at Hotel Chocolat.....nice website, (and no I don't advocate Radek's chocolate by the way) I advocate for a healthy Britain, something that the government are backing (seen the amount of self-help health programmes you see on tv today?). I am sure they wouldn't advocate Hotel Chocolat either...I see for under a tenner you get a suitably milk and raw cane sugar filled selection.....oh well Ce'st la vie. :-X
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The Daily Mail!!??
A free subscription to the BNP for every reader.
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I wasn't aware of the new raw chocolate craze.
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God save us from self help programmes.
Everyone knows what a healthy diet is. They promote healthy eating in schools from the age of four and even in post-compulsory education in which I work. People have to be free to make healthy choices for themselves. However, it's not as simple as that. Modern life is very stressful and people compensate by eating, drinking and smoking even though they know it's bad for them. Making people feel guilty by pointing to their muffin rolls and bat wings only makes things worse. As well as many overweight citizens, there are a growing number with eating disorders (especially young girls) because the media is constantly encouraging people to identify beauty with bodies that have been starved, shaved of all natural hair, coloured orange and stretched out of all recognition by facial surgery.
I do however think that it's VERY important to make every effort to ensure chocolate coming into this country is from ethical sources (that goes for all products actually) and that people do not inadvertently contribute to the slavery and suffering of others.
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The Daily Mail!!??
A free subscription to the BNP for every reader.
That was just a random Google search.....
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I wasn't aware of the new raw chocolate craze.
I believe Willy Wonky (Willie Harcourt-Cooze) or whatever his name is, sources ethical raw cacao beans and uses minimal processing and heat treating in the making of his chocolate.
There are quite a few up and coming RAW brands now, including:
Shazzie's Naked Chocolate
Radek's fine Truffles (fairtrade and ethical, vegan)
and another one by a David Wolfe from the U.S (I can't think of the product name right now)
But all are ethical and in comparison.....extremely healthy and beneficial compared to the mass manufactured, overheated, baked, dairy bulked, mutated, tooth rotting rubbish that we see in our shops here....Great for dentists, bad for us....
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i think you'll find that just about all of us here LOVE the 'tooth-rotting rubbish' you're slandering.
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If you look up "RAW" chocolate, you will find its yet another company claiming that they are the only or the first or the best, blah blah blah bollox.
Shazzie can p' off @ £3.86 a bar of 65g chocolate, I can get "fair trade" 80% for £1.19 in a shop near me for a full 100g. I would rather pay £11 for http://venezuelan-black.co.uk/venezuelan-black-chocolate (http://venezuelan-black.co.uk/venezuelan-black-chocolate) and be assured in the knowledge that this is a 100% product and its source is obviously venezuelan from the label and so on, None of this 100% RAW stuff which is no indication of the level of purity or concentration of cacao per bar. If you trawl the site, you will find no indication of the amount of cacao is in these bars of chocolate other than the claim that its 100% RAW which means nothing. All chocolate comes from 100% RAW & Organic materials.
Shazzie is also misleading people on more than one point about "Organic" foods, if you look at the legislation, you will find that Shazzies claims are correct in certifaction but not when it comes to organics.
Pint pot version of the law is that "IT IS NOT ILLEGAL" to sell produce or items that have been produced as organic as "Organic" but "IT IS ILLEGAL" to sell produce as "Certified Organic" when it has no certificate to back up the claim or is not "Certified" by the appropriate authority.
I think I will stick to my sugar enriched, milk laced non ethical bar of cadburys effort.
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You tell 'im, netbuddy! Gareth76's posts are about as loaded as the kind of crap peddled by the Daily Mail. I eat my HC Rabot Estate milk and dark because I want to. It's pricier than most chocolate, but at least jobs have been created because of it and a new cacao industry is growing.
I'm sure a lot of places are going to be jumping on the 'healthy' 100% RAW bollocks bandwagon because it makes money and that's what's important, yes? Don't start preaching to me about non-ethical this and that, because somewhere down the line, you've funded the arms trade, slavery, etc.
Now I'm angry!
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I want vegetable fat and associated crap!
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If you must call this company, avoid the:- 08700 113 119 telephone number as this earns them revenue... Use the land line its forwarded to :- 01493 442000.
Oh the power of the internet.
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I can't say I agree with any scam that involves telecommunication customer fraud such as 118 directory enquiry (especially put through connections) and other premium number rip offs >:(......I was not advocating the aformentioned website, or that number.
I need more time to respond to your previous entry as I have been out for the day......nowhere near Birmingham or Cadburys though :P
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I've just finished a huge bar of cadburys fruit and nut. Tomorrow i may have some Galaxy. Can't i tempt you Gareth?
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I bet he's gone out for a family-sized bucket of KFC Lou.
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;D I love processed zero food
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Processed zero food rocks!
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Radek is bad, mmmkay?
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Looks like the answer to the poll is no.
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pretty conclusive, i'd say.
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Where is Gareth76? I hope he took his raw rubbish with him! :D
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He OD'd on his raw thing.
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He's probably climbed many tall buildings by now.
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Gareth does it interest you that i had sushi for lunch?
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i think we all frightened poor gareth away.
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We seem to have that effect quite often...
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i think we all frightened poor gareth away.
What did we do?
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Well it seems that "Newbies" are a rare entity given that most of them that join end up advertising out right, spamming or using subtle ways to "Market" a product.
Unless Gareth comes back to state otherwise, I am going to assume that the motive for the thread was just that, an advertising subvert. In English, the motive was always to advertise under the guise of being a thread. The title sayas it all "If it's not RAW chocolate, then it's a processed zero food..."
My rest my case M'lud.
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YAY!
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I once read in a womens weekly magazine (not that I read them of course...) that dark chocolate has all the goodness taken out of it as the taste makes it too bitter, therefore effectively making it even less good for you than milk chocolate. At least milk chocolate has calcium (milk) in it!
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What they do is they remove the flavonoids, which contain all the good stuff but retain that bitter taste. Now, I love that bitter taste, but most of the British public don't. So, most of the crappier chocolate companies take them out, making any health benefits of the chocolate redundant. Milk chocolate may have milk in it, but it also contains a lot of sugar!