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Title: Is it about time we made the drunks pay?
Post by: bounty hunter on September 16, 2008, 07:30:45 am
Do you think people who become hopelessly drunk and get injured from fights/falling over should have to pay for their treatment? The effects of alcohol abuse on the NHS can hardly be exaggerated.
Title: Re: Is it about time we made the drunks pay?
Post by: paulham on September 16, 2008, 08:13:19 am
I have always believed this. Smoking related diseases too.
Drug abusers should have to pay back their debt in some other way.
If you are fat due to over-eating you should pay for diseases you develop as a result.
Title: Re: Is it about time we made the drunks pay?
Post by: goldencup on September 16, 2008, 01:59:37 pm
And if you choose to sail out to sea on a lilo with bad weather forecast, you should pay for the RNLI being called out.
Title: Re: Is it about time we made the drunks pay?
Post by: loulou on September 16, 2008, 08:18:47 pm
and if you burn your kitchen down cos you were cooking turkey dinosaurs the insurance company should not pay out.
Title: Re: Is it about time we made the drunks pay?
Post by: paulham on September 16, 2008, 08:52:36 pm
Gobble-gobble.
Title: Re: Is it about time we made the drunks pay?
Post by: oldspice on September 16, 2008, 09:14:12 pm
Should fat people get stomach reducations, or depressed people get an ambulance every time they take 6 paracetomol?  For every foolish behaviour, you can find a diozen reasons that seem to justify the behaviour. We're all guilty of it to some extent. I don't smoke or drink much - but I do over indulge on food at times and Iam 50 years old and several stones overweight. If I had a heart attack tonight, should I be charged for my treatment?  A huge number of people drink, smoke or over eat because of the pressure of modern life. Large numbers of people in the health profession are alcoholics - same with the teaching profession. What is needed is a better work/life balance and what is also needed is fewer people working long hours and more people given the opportunity to train for meaningful work.
Title: Re: Is it about time we made the drunks pay?
Post by: bounty hunter on September 17, 2008, 03:05:20 pm
Over eating and smoking are life-style choices, which unhappily have dire consequences for your health.  I don't think this is the same as a person going out on a bender and getting rat-arsed, which is negligent behaviour - a bit like drink driving.
Title: Re: Is it about time we made the drunks pay?
Post by: oldspice on September 17, 2008, 05:40:56 pm
But why do people get rat-arsed? Isn't it just the same as settling down in front of the Tv with a mega sized box of chocs? Don't the same pressures drive people to do these things? Maybe not, I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Is it about time we made the drunks pay?
Post by: paulham on September 17, 2008, 05:44:34 pm
They are ALL life-style choices and as such you should pay the consequences.
Title: Re: Is it about time we made the drunks pay?
Post by: smurfboy on September 18, 2008, 02:56:48 pm
What if you buy a house near a mobile phone mast and later get cancer? Should you be denied NHS treatment because you made the lifestyle choice to live there?
Title: Re: Is it about time we made the drunks pay?
Post by: paulham on September 18, 2008, 07:03:32 pm
There is currently no proven link here unlike cigarettes.
Title: Re: Is it about time we made the drunks pay?
Post by: bounty hunter on September 19, 2008, 07:25:13 am
Exactly, the mobile phone thing has very little scientific evidence to back it up.
Title: Re: Is it about time we made the drunks pay?
Post by: smurfboy on September 19, 2008, 11:27:12 am
I'm just trying to make the point that it's very difficult to lead a risk-free life. Crossing the road is risky; should someone who gets run over be made to pay for their treatment because they didn't use a zebra crossing?
Title: Re: Is it about time we made the drunks pay?
Post by: paulham on September 19, 2008, 05:19:23 pm
Yes but sticking a cancer inducing stick into your mouth isn't exactly the cleverst thing you can do. The risks are fairly apparent to even the dullest in our society.
Title: Re: Is it about time we made the drunks pay?
Post by: bounty hunter on September 19, 2008, 08:33:41 pm
I once smoked half a cigarette when I was 16.  It made me feel ill and I've not touched one since.  I had a puff on a spliff when I was 28 and it made my legs go to jelly and my head spin and not touched one of those since too.  I had a mixed grill in a Goods lift when I was 19 and haven't left them alone since. 
Title: Re: Is it about time we made the drunks pay?
Post by: paulham on September 19, 2008, 08:54:35 pm
  I had a puff on a spliff when I was 28 and it made my legs go to jelly and my head spin and not touched one of those since too. 

Was it a Chiver's raspberry?
I like that one.
Title: Re: Is it about time we made the drunks pay?
Post by: oldspice on September 20, 2008, 09:51:28 am
I once smoked half a cigarette when I was 16.  It made me feel ill and I've not touched one since.  I had a puff on a spliff when I was 28 and it made my legs go to jelly and my head spin and not touched one of those since too.  I had a mixed grill in a Goods lift when I was 19 and haven't left them alone since. 

Forget the spliffs Bounty. Try it in rock cakes.
Title: Re: Is it about time we made the drunks pay?
Post by: bounty hunter on September 21, 2008, 07:22:07 am
Urghh!!!
Title: Re: Is it about time we made the drunks pay?
Post by: smurfboy on September 22, 2008, 02:36:52 pm
Yes but sticking a cancer inducing stick into your mouth isn't exactly the cleverst thing you can do. The risks are fairly apparent to even the dullest in our society.

Maybe not all the dullest ;)