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Title: Cash and early release.
Post by: loulou on June 29, 2007, 05:44:28 pm

The early release of up to 1,200 criminals is under way in an attempt to ease the overcrowding crisis in Britain's prisons. Prisoners released early from prison are to receive a cash payout of up to 172 to compensate them for loss of bed and board.


Who else thinks this is disgraceful giving them cash as well as freeing them early?

Title: Cash and early release.
Post by: oldspice on June 29, 2007, 05:57:08 pm
I do. Talk about crime pays. Of course, some people should not be in jail at all. People should not be jailed for failure to pay fines or failure to send their children to school. They should carry out meaningful and useful work in the community. However, there are many nasty scumbags running around free or being given silly jail terms for persistent criminality and they should be locked up.
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Post by: smurfboy on June 29, 2007, 06:22:35 pm
'Loss of bed and board'? It's prison - they're not being thrown out of their homes!
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Post by: goldencup on June 29, 2007, 07:14:42 pm
Ridiculous!
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Post by: Scarlet Passion on July 03, 2007, 11:12:23 pm
Oh I just love this idea!!! Who thought this one up?
I thought being in prison was supposed to be a detterant against commiting further crimes? Not a paid holiday with extra compensation for early release and any inconvenience that might cause.

If I couldn't see this heading into the territory where the good guys are locked up for their own safety whilst the criminals run the whole country I'd probably be laughing till I peed right about now.
See five minutes of voting age and already I'm a militant and an anarchist!LOL
Title: Cash and early release.
Post by: on July 04, 2007, 09:40:39 am

At what point did the government think it was a good idea to let people out early with pay rather than build more prisons?  What was the chain of reasoning, which led them to this batty conclusion? 


I wish I lived in a proper country like Sweden. 
Title: Cash and early release.
Post by: loulou on July 04, 2007, 09:46:59 am
I wish i lived in a proper country too.
Title: Cash and early release.
Post by: smurfboy on July 04, 2007, 03:21:21 pm
You could both emigrate.

Bounty, I agree in principle that more prisons should have been built, but hindsight is a wonderful thing. They can't be thrown up overnight. More prisons is a long-term solution - there is a problem now. Although early release is far from idea, I'd rather a petty crook got out early than someone more dangerous got a non-custodial sentence because there was no room in prison for them.

Title: Cash and early release.
Post by: loulou on July 04, 2007, 03:50:33 pm
I do plan to emigrate when I am 50. I don't want to see my retirement out in this country.
Title: Cash and early release.
Post by: Scarlet Passion on July 04, 2007, 04:37:19 pm
Quote from: smurfboy
You could both emigrate.

Bounty, I agree in principle that more prisons should have been built, but hindsight is a wonderful thing. They can't be thrown up overnight. More prisons is a long-term solution - there is a problem now. Although early release is far from idea, I'd rather a petty crook got out early than someone more dangerous got a non-custodial sentence because there was no room in prison for them.

 

Well apart from the emigrate comment to Bounty and Loulou (I'd miss Loulou.Big%20smile) I do agree with what you said smurfboy. Though getting out early in my opinion should be reward enough without money as compensation aswell. But there you go!

I wondered if we could put the overflow in tents on the moors like the famous five and ask them nicely if they would pretty please just promise not to run away until their sentences are up?

That is just about as far from an apt response to this problem as the one they've dreamed up and mine is cheaper.
Title: Cash and early release.
Post by: loulou on July 04, 2007, 04:45:06 pm
Don't worry Scarlett. I won't go anywhere without my pc.Smile
Title: Cash and early release.
Post by: smurfboy on July 04, 2007, 08:06:13 pm
Quote from: Scarlet Passion
Though getting out early in my opinion should be reward enough without money as compensation aswell. But there you go!

 

I definitely agree about the money thing, it's ridiculous.

 

What annoys me is that I read recently Scotland has around 90 free prison spaces, but English prisoners can't be moved there! So why can the Scots benefit from English taxes? Angry
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Post by: Forth Bridges on July 04, 2007, 08:56:33 pm
Because it DIFFERENT LAWS;'

and due that fact there only be kept in country of trail!

Title: Cash and early release.
Post by: smurfboy on July 04, 2007, 09:04:29 pm
That's fine - but if Scotland wants a different legal system, it can have its own tax system too, with no contributions from the English coffers.
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Post by: oldspice on July 05, 2007, 08:05:41 am
Is Scotland REALLY a different country? When did we rip up the Act of Union?  
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Post by: on July 05, 2007, 08:13:25 am
Scotland is part of the same country as England but is semi-autonomous. 
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Post by: on July 05, 2007, 08:14:29 am
[QUOTE=Scarlet Passion
 

Well apart from the emigrate comment to Bounty and Loulou (I'd miss Loulou.Big%20smile)

 

So you wouldn't miss me?
bounty hunter2007-07-05 07:14:57
Title: Cash and early release.
Post by: loulou on July 05, 2007, 09:44:29 am
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So you wouldn't miss me?

 

You would take your pc too.
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Post by: Forth Bridges on July 05, 2007, 01:23:43 pm
SMufy:

We had our OWN legal and Education system for 300 years!

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Post by: smurfboy on July 05, 2007, 02:13:08 pm
Yes I know, but that still doesn't answer my question, does it?
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Post by: Forth Bridges on July 05, 2007, 02:19:06 pm
you get all that Money from the oil....

and the tourtist..



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Post by: smurfboy on July 05, 2007, 02:55:51 pm
Eh?
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Post by: Forth Bridges on July 05, 2007, 03:08:01 pm
wHATS THE qUESTION? 
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Post by: on July 05, 2007, 03:26:40 pm
What oil do we get money from?  Are you confusing England with Norway? bounty hunter2007-07-05 14:27:29
Title: Cash and early release.
Post by: Forth Bridges on July 05, 2007, 04:11:14 pm
North sea oil fields? 
Title: Cash and early release.
Post by: oldspice on July 05, 2007, 06:11:16 pm
Quote from: 623058
you get all that Money from the oil....

and the tourtist..



 

 

We get money from tourists who tour England. Scotland gets money from tourists who tour Scotland. As far as the oil money is concerned, both Scotland and England benefit.  I don't see why we have to have this north/south exchange all the time. I am a hard-working individual who pays my taxes and I won't apologise for being English. I don't personally contribute to anyone's oppression.
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Post by: Forth Bridges on July 05, 2007, 07:19:29 pm
Smufy Brought this up:

I don;t wont a slip of the union.    althourgh He complaining about the English cant be put in scot jails But Scot have a completely Difference justice system.  so there could never be put else where. Expect for Peterhead?

Title: Cash and early release.
Post by: oldspice on July 05, 2007, 07:46:25 pm
Scotland doesn't have a 'completely different' justice system. It is somewhat different  but I don't see why someone can't be tried in an English court under the Englsih system but held in Scotland if there is space. However, laywers would be arguing that it would be unfair on the prisoner as his/her family would find it difficult to visit. You know what it's like - never mind the victim, just make sure the perpetrator is not upset in any way. 
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Post by: on July 06, 2007, 08:52:53 am
Clap
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Post by: smurfboy on July 06, 2007, 03:03:47 pm
I just feel that the Scots is happy to consider themselves part of a different country when it suits them; but when it financially benefits Scotland, we're suddenly all part of the UK again. It's hypocritical.
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Post by: Forth Bridges on July 06, 2007, 11:25:41 pm
Don;t Kid yourself!

Over Half Dont; want to spit!

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Post by: oldspice on July 07, 2007, 09:23:08 am
Good thing too. It's a filthy habit.
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Post by: goldencup on July 07, 2007, 11:09:04 am
LOL
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Post by: loulou on July 07, 2007, 10:11:47 pm
 Drooling