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i can understand a special 'large' parking space for people with babies who need access with prams etc... it ranks up there with disabled wheelchair parking...
what i don't get is is why people with WALKING 2 or 3 year olds have special 'parent and toddler spaces' allocated to them right next to the supermarket entrance. the spaces aren't any bigger than regular spaces, the only difference is that they are closer to the shop. why?
are people with toddlers unable to walk? are the toddlers themselves unable to walk? (and i'm not buying into the rubbish that it increases the chances of them getting run over if they park further away.)
i don't get why they get the same priority as people with genuine complaints (such as wheelchairs.) whats up with this?
(apologies for this rant - but i've just had a bad parking experience in Asda...)
wjp6662007-03-31 15:52:16
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People who have kids should be made to stay at home and shop online until their kids start school. That's what I think................
No honestly,
I can't think of a reason why they do that, apart from the being run over one of course, but that isn't really a good reason, especially if it means that people with a genuine disability are having to park half way down the car park.
But then who knows why supermarkets do any of the daft things they do?
Like suddenly discontinuing something you have bought every week for over a year because it didn't sell??
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Toddlers still need help to get strapped into their car seats and this needs a certain amount of room. Probably not that much though!
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Toddlers still need help to get strapped into their car seats and this needs a certain amount of room. Probably not that much though!
no problem with that theory, but 90% of these spaces are no bigger in size (those are the 'baby' spaces.) they're just closer to the store. so if they REALLY do need bigger spaces to be strapped in and all that, why do they have to be so close to the store? why not stick 'em over the other side of the carpark? (if they did that, no parents with toddlers would use them anyway - thus proving my point.)
i don't understand why parents with toddlers need to be put in the same priority zone as handicapped people.
wjp6662007-03-31 18:52:14
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Good points and I see you said earlier that these spaces are no bigger - slapped wrist for GC for not reading the post properly!
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don't make me discipline you...
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Wip666 - have you ever BEEN shopping with a toddler or two?
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yes, of course. never used the spaces on principle. wjp6662007-03-31 19:13:56
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I think there should be special supermarkets where no toddlers are allowed - then I wouldn't have to listen to them throwing tantrums because they can't have sweets!
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Im glad this was brought up, i was on a bit of a rant the other day when i seen it mentioned in one of the other posts. I can understand why the parent and toddler spaces should be wider but i have to clue why they all need to be so close to the door!? Some one mentiond "none parent and toddler users parking in them asking why cant they walk across the car park" Why cant parents and kids? or can people not push prams that far? So i guess i pretty much agree with wjp666.
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I think there should be special supermarkets where no toddlers are allowed - then I wouldn't have to listen to them throwing tantrums because they can't have sweets!
Excellent idea.
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"none parent and toddler users parking in them asking why cant they walk across the car park" Why cant parents and kids? or can people not push prams that far? So i guess i pretty much agree with wjp666.
Erm I think that might have been me you're quoting there StarSparkle, but I've seen women with kids and a full trolley struggling across a car park because the special parking spaces are taken up by men in vans who don't want to be bothered to walk any further than they have to, and people who are just 'nipping in for a sandwich or a paper'. These people also park in the disabled and elderly parking spaces.
This is wrong.
People should think about others more. If you can walk that far (with or without kids) then you should park away from the doors and leave those spaces for people who need them.
If I have any doubts about something I'm thinking of doing I think about my gran. If she wouldn't have liked it, then I don't do it. If it would have made her smile or made her proud then I'm OK.
I won't be parking near the doors until I have to and I hope that's a long long time away yet.

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I forgot to put it on my post, but I like the idea of child free supermarkets. Not all of them, but a few selected ones would be good.
They fill up with kids during the holidays and it's a nightmare when all you want is a loaf of bread and a tin of beans for dinner and you're on a bus timetable.
And if you kick 'em out of the way or trample them in your rush to a till their mum's scowl at you something fierce.

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I think I would draw the line at child-free supermarkets but I like the pubs where only adults are allowed to sit down and eat a meal and enjoy a drink. Some 'family pubs' are a nightmare to eat in because of the kiddies running in and out, in between tables etc and then howling when they are strapped into a kiddy seat to eat. Of course, family pubs are a godsend for people with children but I have stopped visiting them now my kids have grown up.
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i wish a lot of places were child-free... cinemas and bowling alleys spring to mind!
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I remember a few years back it was in the papers about a couple being thrown out of the cinema for trying to take their baby into an 18 film. There was a lot of fuss because people were saying it was just an excuse not to let them take the baby in, as it couldn't possibly understand what was happening in the film - but for God's sake, what kind of selfish, irresponsible person takes a baby into the cinema?!
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well said that man

it's bad enough when parents take their annoying offspring to 12A's.
most kids have no arttention span or patience these days. so people take them to a place where they have to sit still and be quiet for a couple of hours without bugging anyone around them. like that's going to work!
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I suppose they thought maybe it would just sleep and never know anything about it, but even so if it woke up everyone would know all about it. 
Seems a silly thing to do to me, taking kids to an adult function of any kind. I mean apart from how annoying for the grown-ups it is having kids running about and getting under your feet, it must be seriously boring for the poor kids. (I suppose that's why they're behaving so badly, because they're bored?)
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While we're on this subject, I get annoyed by people who take their dogs into our busy town centre on a Saturday afternoon and tie them up for two hours whilst they go shopping! The poor dogs sit alternatively barking, straining, growling and howling in the pedestrianised areas getting very distressed and frightening all the small children around them. It's so cruel. Why not take them for a lovely walk by the river or across one of our many beautiful open spaces where they can have a good run?
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I park as far away from the supermarket as is possible just to avoid getting hit by other peoples' car doors and out of control trolleys.
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While we're on this subject, I get annoyed by people who take their dogs into our busy town centre on a Saturday afternoon and tie them up for two hours whilst they go shopping! The poor dogs sit alternatively barking, straining, growling and howling in the pedestrianised areas getting very distressed and frightening all the small children around them. It's so cruel. Why not take them for a lovely walk by the river or across one of our many beautiful open spaces where they can have a good run?
I used to see this a lot when I was little; I always thought it was mean. If you don't have time to take your dog for a proper walk, you don't have time to own one.
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While we're on this subject, I get annoyed by people who take their dogs into our busy town centre on a Saturday afternoon and tie them up for two hours whilst they go shopping! The poor dogs sit alternatively barking, straining, growling and howling in the pedestrianised areas getting very distressed and frightening all the small children around them. It's so cruel. Why not take them for a lovely walk by the river or across one of our many beautiful open spaces where they can have a good run?
I used to see this a lot when I was little; I always thought it was mean. If you don't have time to take your dog for a proper walk, you don't have time to own one.
And when they leave them in their cars for hours, I think that's mean too.
Poor dogs.
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I would like to see child free pubs and supermarkets.
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Having battled through Sainsbury's today amongst crowds of lost holiday-makers, I'm in favour of 'local residents only' supermarkets!
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Having battled through Sainsbury's today amongst crowds of lost holiday-makers, I'm in favour of 'local residents only' supermarkets!
Oh me too.
What a brilliant idea. Could we extend that to residents only parking areas and a special lane for residents on the by-passes around towns and local amenities please?
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I think the opposite! As many of the local residents hereabouts are moronic chavs with children that have silly names such as Dante and and Demi who make Vicky Pollard look like Maria Von Trapp, I would like to shop in tourist-only shops (but then I'm a local resident so......
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Good grief I'm glad I don't live where you live it must be awful.

Does anyone really call their son Dante??? What a silly name.
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Having battled through Sainsbury's today amongst crowds of lost holiday-makers, I'm in favour of 'local residents only' supermarkets!
Oh me too.
What a brilliant idea. Could we extend that to residents only parking areas and a special lane for residents on the by-passes around towns and local amenities please?
All excellent ideas Scarlet! Although I suppose we do need the tourists....do you live in a tourist town too then?
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All excellent ideas Scarlet! Although I suppose we do need the tourists....do you live in a tourist town too then?
Oh tourists are alright I guess, and I used to go on holidays too and I suppose the local people complained about me and my family then.
But they do clog up the shops and roads and things.
I don't live in a tourist town goldencup, my mum lives in a small village and we sometimes get the odd passing hiker or someone cycling but never lots of them.
My problem is that I go to Uni in Bangor and though I'm away from there for the worst times ie the summer holidays and stuff the tourists are around from Easter until well after the end of September, and if you want to go anywhere from Bangor you have to go through 'tourist country'.

The bridges to Anglesey get jammed, Caernarfon is packed, Bangor town center heaves and you can't get into any of the cafes.

As for climbing Snowdon, (which is a lovely weekend walk out of season,) forget it. It's like trying to relax in the middle of a riot.
The men wear sandals or even worse sandals with socks! They stop in the middle of the road to take pictures of the pretty view

and the pubs are so crowded you can't get to the bar for hours! (not that I go into pubs or drink or anything like that

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You sound like you DO live in a tourist town golden cup. Anywhere I might like to visit and add to the tourist mayhem this summer???

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Our baby bunnies have their own little area where they can munch on their carrots or whatever while the Mums are at the shops.
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How irresponsible to leave your baby alone while you go to the shops!