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Title: Angry
Post by: on January 26, 2007, 07:12:36 am
So this Welsh bloke is looking at photos of children being abused and gets a suspended sentence because the Home Secretary has told judges that only the most dangerous offenders should be imprisoned.  Erm, excuse me, a paedophile looking at these images is a VERY dangerous offender.  Is it just me or does anyone else think this country is run by a bunch of useless t**sers?
Title: Angry
Post by: Velvet Darkness on January 26, 2007, 12:58:22 pm

No it's not just you.


There is me aswell.

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Post by: kevvosa on January 26, 2007, 02:09:03 pm
The prisons are overcrowded, we need to build more. 
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Post by: loulou on January 26, 2007, 02:23:12 pm
I don't agree with paying taxes to keep prisoners locked away in cells with tv's, dvd players, gyms and stuff that honest decent people outside don't have.  I say catch someone thieving and chop their hands off, catch a rapist and tattoo rapist across his forehead. This would be more of a deterent. Too many people who have nothing on the outside are happy enough to re offend so they can go back to their safe life of a roof over their heads and food rather than face having to work to pay bills.
Title: Angry
Post by: Velvet Darkness on January 26, 2007, 02:25:35 pm

Quote from: loulou
I don't agree with paying taxes to keep prisoners locked away in cells with tv's, dvd players, gyms and stuff that honest decent people outside don't have.  I say catch someone thieving and chop their hands off, catch a rapist and tattoo rapist across his forehead. This would be more of a deterent. Too many people who have nothing on the outside are happy enough to re offend so they can go back to their safe life of a roof over their heads and food rather than face having to work to pay bills.


         


I think you're bloody wonderful!

Title: Angry
Post by: lorri on January 26, 2007, 02:28:41 pm

Quote from: loulou
I don't agree with paying taxes to keep prisoners locked away in cells with tv's, dvd players, gyms and stuff that honest decent people outside don't have.  I say catch someone thieving and chop their hands off, catch a rapist and tattoo rapist across his forehead. This would be more of a deterent. Too many people who have nothing on the outside are happy enough to re offend so they can go back to their safe life of a roof over their heads and food rather than face having to work to pay bills.


 


 


could not of put it better myself, well said lou

Title: Angry
Post by: smurfboy on January 26, 2007, 06:55:26 pm
They were discussing Question Time last night and there was some suggestion that the judge involved had deliberately let this man go free to make a point. If that is true he should be deeply ashamed of himself. Isn't the safety of children more important than him throwing a strop about a new ruling?
Title: Angry
Post by: oldspice on January 26, 2007, 07:01:58 pm

When the government was elected it promised to be "tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime" and it seems their promise has been carried out but they forgot to build enough prisons to house these criminals!


I believe in a short, sharp, harsh shock. A short but hard prison sentence, along with re-training and counselling should put most people back on the right path. Persistent offenders should get longer, tougher sentences and be made to do some sort of useful work.


Sex offenders should ALWAYS be locked up.  As I understand it though, this chap had downloaded child porn but was not convicted of any assaults.

Title: Angry
Post by: kevvosa on January 26, 2007, 07:39:25 pm

Quote from: oldspice

  As I understand it though, this chap had downloaded child porn but was not convicted of any assaults.



In cases like this they should be tagged and monitored.
Title: Angry
Post by: loulou on January 26, 2007, 08:52:38 pm
and his computer took away.
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Post by: on January 27, 2007, 08:12:40 am
I would like to echo the sentiments of Loulou and Smurfy.

Oldspice, tagging and monitoring is not enough.  A child had to be abused to make the images that this bloke had downloaded.  As far as I'm concerned looking at the stuff is child abuse by proxy.  This man should have been looked up for several years - he is a danger to children.  There is every probability that at some point this man will feel that the pictures are not enough and find a child.  If they cannot help these urges then they either need to be locked up for life or have their penis removed.  God knows why there are men like this.
Title: Angry
Post by: oldspice on January 27, 2007, 08:44:44 am
I didn't suggest he should be tagged. That was Kev. I said sex offenders should ALWAYS be jailed.
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Post by: kevvosa on January 27, 2007, 10:56:12 am
Well if they're not going to imprison him the least they can do is tag and monitor him.

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Post by: oldspice on January 27, 2007, 11:03:27 am
Yes. You are right.
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Post by: on January 27, 2007, 04:11:18 pm
Apologies Oldspice, got my posters mixed up.  

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Post by: oldspice on January 27, 2007, 05:50:09 pm
That's OK
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Post by: smurfboy on January 29, 2007, 07:26:15 pm

According to the Sunday papers, there are 89 free prison places in Scotland, but because of some stupid law, English prisoners can't be sent there. This is despite the fact that English taxes subside these prisons - as they do most services in Scotland.


The Scots are always whingeing on about wanting more independence - well perhaps they should get it, and have to survive on the taxes their dwindling 5 million population pay instead of getting subsidies from the English and doing nothing in return.

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Post by: Forth Bridges on January 29, 2007, 11:13:27 pm
A: most scots won't want Independents! were lose all our jobs!

B: our Population is not dwindling it is on fact going up:

C: Scotland HAS different LAW to England and has so for over 1000 years!

D: it colder up here - that why we get s we bit more:

E: a OAP group complained in the scots parliaments that paying £30'000 a year to house a Prison is a disgrace!

F: I say chuck in the a batter hen farm type place give them 1 meal a day NOT 3, the poorest families in UK only 1 hot meal per day if thier lucky!

Title: Angry
Post by: oldspice on January 30, 2007, 06:59:58 am
Are you seriously telling me you get more English money because it's colder up there?
Title: Angry
Post by: Forth Bridges on January 30, 2007, 09:41:41 am
YES we do!

because scotland "colder" it cost more to operate things

Thier words No tmine!

B: we get alittewr but more to keep us happy!

Title: Angry
Post by: on January 30, 2007, 10:59:07 am
It's true, it's even colder in Finland and they're all wealthy