Post by: on December 30, 2006, 10:17:50 am
Post by: wjp666 on December 30, 2006, 10:39:49 am
i'm really not a supporter of the death penalty at all... i don 't think we have the right to take life and all that...
but i'm finding empathy impossible in this particular case. good riddance.
Post by: goldencup on December 30, 2006, 10:51:13 am
Post by: oldspice on December 30, 2006, 12:14:19 pm
I don't agree with the death penalty but sometimes my emotions overcome me and I cry out for justice for the victims of crime.
Like Bounty, I found this a bit chilling as I think there are many such evil men/women in the world getting away with terrible crimes against humanity. I don't think America is particularly lilly-white for a start.
I don't think this will be the end of matters.
Post by: smurfboy on December 30, 2006, 01:16:55 pm
Post by: Velvet Darkness on December 30, 2006, 08:09:36 pm
It would have been enough for me to know that it had been carried out.
I did not need to see the actions before hand and images of his body afterwards on the evening news.
I found that too much and switched over.
Post by: kevvosa on December 30, 2006, 08:20:04 pm
We don't have the right to take what God has given.
Is this just limited to human lives? I ask because we take a lot of things that 'God' has given.
Post by: loulou on December 31, 2006, 12:17:31 am
Post by: oldspice on December 31, 2006, 09:24:15 am
Post by: on December 31, 2006, 09:43:20 am
Quote from: bounty hunterWe don't have the right to take what God has given.Is this just limited to human lives? I ask because we take a lot of things that 'God' has given.
A good question. All life is sacred, but human life is especially sacresanct because we are told we were made in God's own image. We must treat animals with respect and for those that we eat we must afford them the respect in death that we would in life. I am seriously thinking of becoming a vegeterian because of the slaughterhouses. As for plants - these are gift from God, eating fruit and vegetables is not the same as eating animals.
Post by: kevvosa on December 31, 2006, 10:16:01 am
I am seriously thinking of becoming a vegeterian because of the slaughterhouses. As for plants - these are gift from God, eating fruit and vegetables is not the same as eating animals.
Although I'm not religious I do agree with this. Humans obviously come first but I believe all sentient creatures should be treated with respect - nothing justifies humans to allow them to suffer when it can be prevented.
Post by: goldencup on December 31, 2006, 10:19:02 am
Post by: kevvosa on December 31, 2006, 10:21:31 am
It's the 'God's own image' bit that I'm struggling with.
I've always found this odd too - does it mean that God has female and male parts?
Post by: on December 31, 2006, 11:09:43 am
Post by: Freddie on December 31, 2006, 12:53:04 pm
i have mixed feelings..
i think it's easy to sit here and say i think this or i think that..as it wasn't my Father..Brother..Uncle..Mother etc that was taken from me by this man.
we all have our own beliefs and who is to say one is more right than the other..i don't know if i could be strong enough to forgive and let another human live that murdered a love one of mine..i hope i never have to make that choice..
Post by: on December 31, 2006, 02:04:37 pm
Post by: wjp666 on December 31, 2006, 04:45:19 pm
Post by: goldencup on December 31, 2006, 05:35:41 pm
Post by: smurfboy on December 31, 2006, 05:50:21 pm
Post by: on December 31, 2006, 06:57:38 pm
Post by: Velvet Darkness on January 02, 2007, 08:22:50 pm
Quote from: bounty hunter
I am seriously thinking of becoming a vegeterian because of the slaughterhouses. As for plants - these are gift from God, eating fruit and vegetables is not the same as eating animals.
Although I'm not religious I do agree with this. Humans obviously come first but I believe all sentient creatures should be treated with respect - nothing justifies humans to allow them to suffer when it can be prevented.
I have been vegetarian for a long time now for exactly these reasons.
I am not a believer in any god, preferring to trust my destiny into my own hands and hold myself accountable for my actions, but there are some things that I believe I could not do.
I could not justify the needless suffering of another creature for my sake. I could not permit myself to become accepting of the death of another human being as just something that happens, but I could not forgive or forget anyone who would try to harm my children. If it came down to them or my children I am afraid at that point they become expendable as my protective mothering instincts take over.
Post by: Velvet Darkness on January 02, 2007, 08:31:42 pm
One other thing I found particularly difficult in all this was how my view of TV changed because of it or at least partially changed anyway.
I always thought that the point of television was to inform and/or entertain, I would have been equally well informed without the pictures and graphic description of events.
I would never consider this kind of thing as entertainment and I am happy to say I don't know anyone who would, but with this story the news people seemed to be taking a news story and treating it like an entertainment spectacle.
I found this deeply disturbing.
Post by: on January 02, 2007, 09:29:25 pm
Post by: kevvosa on January 02, 2007, 11:24:38 pm
They should pay us our TV licences back.
Post by: Velvet Darkness on January 03, 2007, 12:32:20 am
They should pay us our TV licences back.
What an excellent idea. 