Post by: DoKtor on December 06, 2006, 02:56:12 am
Lions who make midget gems and sports mixture have been bought out
by Maynards. Maynards are owned by Cadbury Treebor Basset and
Maynards have dropped the Lions brand.
Previously,the flavour of all Lions' black midget gems and sports mixture
were liquorice and always had been. But Maynards' black midget gems
and sports mixture are blackcurrant and not liquorice.Also,the fruity
flavours have changed into Maynards' soft and synthetically tasting
gums,presumably so some overstuffed Directors and shareholders can
make more money for less effort.
These sweets are part of our heritage
How dare Maynards purchase Lions and then immediately kill off their two
best products.
It's sacrilege.
It's like someone buying Christmas and getting rid of Santa.
It just shouldn't be allowed!
If you feel as strongly and upset as me,please fill in the petition on this
link.
http://www.thepinksugarmouse.com/cgi-bin/showpage.fcgi?
sid=04671940717015777305984
Thankyou
Post by: oldspice on December 06, 2006, 07:21:34 am
Post by: smurfboy on December 06, 2006, 08:16:26 pm
Post by: kevvosa on December 06, 2006, 09:23:56 pm
Post by: DoKtor on December 07, 2006, 09:42:36 am
collapse?
It wasn't.
You are mistaken.
If you'd taken the time to consult your wise father,Papa Smurf,he would
have told you that Cadbury Treebor Basset purchased Lions as a going
concern,whilst it was still trading successfully.
This was an aquisition of a heathy and prosperous company and NOT a
distressed business.There was no consideration of abolishing the brands
which attracted Cadbury to purchase the company.Nor were there any job
losses,because Emloyees contracts are automatically taken over by the
purchaser in these circumstances.
So it's back to Smurf School for you.And don't eat those Maynards Midget
Gems whilst you're doing your homework,because they're full of e-
numbers and gelatine and will damage your brain.
Post by: kevvosa on December 07, 2006, 12:38:23 pm
Post by: oldspice on December 07, 2006, 06:39:35 pm
It's really annoying when your favourite brands and products are taken over and changed completely.
Years after Nestle took over Rowntrees, I still get mad about the way they have destroyed good products like Toffee Crisp and Lion Bar and turned them into revolting crap.
Post by: kevvosa on December 07, 2006, 06:45:10 pm
Post by: oldspice on December 07, 2006, 07:27:23 pm
Post by: kevvosa on December 07, 2006, 08:01:10 pm
Post by: smurfboy on December 07, 2006, 10:22:01 pm
Errrrrrrrrrrrrr,Smurfboy...................who said that Lions was going to
collapse?
It wasn't.
You are mistaken.
If you'd taken the time to consult your wise father,Papa Smurf,he would
have told you that Cadbury Treebor Basset purchased Lions as a going
concern,whilst it was still trading successfully.
This was an aquisition of a heathy and prosperous company and NOT a
distressed business.There was no consideration of abolishing the brands
which attracted Cadbury to purchase the company.Nor were there any job
losses,because Emloyees contracts are automatically taken over by the
purchaser in these circumstances.
So it's back to Smurf School for you.And don't eat those Maynards Midget
Gems whilst you're doing your homework,because they're full of e-
numbers and gelatine and will damage your brain.
So why shouldn't they have bought it? Who exactly did you want to stop them from buying it?
Employee contracts 'automatically taken over'? I doubt it. And in any case, I said there would have been job losses if the company had collapsed.
Post by: DoKtor on December 08, 2006, 02:09:46 pm
Quote from: DoKtor
Errrrrrrrrrrrrr,Smurfboy...................who said that Lions was going to
collapse? It wasn't. You are mistaken. If you'd taken the time to consult
your wise father,Papa Smurf,he would have told you that Cadbury Treebor
Basset purchased Lions as a going concern,whilst it was still trading
successfully. This was an aquisition of a heathy and prosperous company
and NOT a distressed business.There was no consideration of abolishing
the brands which attracted Cadbury to purchase the company.Nor were
there any job losses,because Emloyees contracts are automatically taken
over by the purchaser in these circumstances. So it's back to Smurf School
for you.And don't eat those Maynards Midget Gems whilst you're doing
your homework,because they're full of e- numbers and gelatine and will
damage your brain.So why shouldn't they have bought it? Who exactly did you want to stop
them from buying it?Employee contracts 'automatically taken over'? I doubt it. And in any
case, I said there would have been job losses if the company had
collapsed.
Again,you have sadly missed the point.
There is no problem whatsoever with Cadburys aquiring Lions.Also,I am
indeferent as to the identity of the purchaser.
It's a free market economy and it's up to the purchaser and vendor if they
wish to agree a 'buy out'.
It is simply irritating that in buying the Company,Cadburys have decided
to roll Lions and Maynards into one,thereby effectively aboilshing Lions'
two most successful and loved products,Midget Gems and Sports Mixture.
I personally don't like Maynards' sweets.But whereas before the consumer
had a choice between the two,now Maynards is the only single option and
I think many would agree that their alternatives are just not as good.
It is akin to Heinz purchasing HP and Daddies and abolishing HP Sauce so
that they can cut cost and make more profit by just selling Daddies,with
the consumers' views going out of the window.
If they wanted to abolish Lions products,they should not have bought the
Company,full stop.
You may not be a fan of Lions' products but many people are,hence the
poll instigated by 'the pink sugarmouse'.I also support the comments
about Aero Bars,Toffee Crisp etc. made above.We are losing consumer
choice in society at the behest of greedy fat cats.Our world famous
products like Crunchie and Chocolate Buttons will be extinct next.
And by the way,when you get back to Smurfland,you may wish to read
this link to the Government website which explains the Transfer of
Undertakings (Protection of Employment) Regulations,before you go
spouting off about something you clearly know nothing about,you silly
little blue man.
But I wouldn't recommend that any others in the Forum read them unless
you're stuggling to get to sleep tonight,because they are completely
'drop-dead' boring.
Post by: DoKtor on December 08, 2006, 02:10:41 pm
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Post by: kevvosa on December 08, 2006, 05:11:34 pm
Good luck with your petition - judging by the comments about this on snackspot there's a lot of people upset about it, so maybe people power will win
Post by: DoKtor on December 08, 2006, 06:02:37 pm
You only have to read the link from Snackshot to understand the strong
consumer opinion against Maynards sweets.
Get your votes in folks!
http://www.snackspot.org.uk/thread.php?story=0504241312sbc
Post by: smurfboy on December 08, 2006, 08:09:41 pm
Again,you have sadly missed the point.
There is no problem whatsoever with Cadburys aquiring Lions.Also,I am
indeferent as to the identity of the purchaser.
It's a free market economy and it's up to the purchaser and vendor if they
wish to agree a 'buy out'.
So when you said it was 'an outrage' that this was allowed, what did you mean? If it's now okay, why are you still spouting on?
It is simply irritating that in buying the Company,Cadburys have decided
to roll Lions and Maynards into one,thereby effectively aboilshing Lions'
two most successful and loved products,Midget Gems and Sports Mixture.
I personally don't like Maynards' sweets.But whereas before the consumer
had a choice between the two,now Maynards is the only single option and
I think many would agree that their alternatives are just not as good.
It is akin to Heinz purchasing HP and Daddies and abolishing HP Sauce so
that they can cut cost and make more profit by just selling Daddies,with
the consumers' views going out of the window.
If they wanted to abolish Lions products,they should not have bought the
Company,full stop.
You may not be a fan of Lions' products but many people are,hence the
poll instigated by 'the pink sugarmouse'.I also support the comments
about Aero Bars,Toffee Crisp etc. made above.We are losing consumer
choice in society at the behest of greedy fat cats.Our world famous
products like Crunchie and Chocolate Buttons will be extinct next.
And by the way,when you get back to Smurfland,you may wish to read
this link to the Government website which explains the Transfer of
Undertakings (Protection of Employment) Regulations,before you go
spouting off about something you clearly know nothing about,you silly little blue man.
I know nothing about it? How the hell would you know? I know that: a) mergers and acquisitions almost invariably lead to job losses AT SOME STAGE and b) You say I'M missing the point, but you clearly never read what I said in the first place - that there would be LESS job losses from an acquisition than a company collapse.
But I wouldn't recommend that any others in the Forum read them unless
you're stuggling to get to sleep tonight,because they are completely
'drop-dead' boring.[/QUOTE]
For God's sake, this country is currently involved in a bloody war that may yet be proved illegal. I had a leaflet through my door the other day about moves to cut infant mortality rates in my council ward - in 21st Century Britain. You really expect people to be up in arms about the future of Midget f**king Gems?!
Post by: loulou on December 08, 2006, 10:59:22 pm
Post by: oldspice on December 09, 2006, 09:28:20 am
Post by: smurfboy on December 09, 2006, 12:30:36 pm
Post by: loulou on December 09, 2006, 10:37:32 pm
Post by: DoKtor on December 10, 2006, 05:03:49 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNdEXE_jamY
Post by: loulou on December 10, 2006, 05:10:43 pm
Post by: DoKtor on December 11, 2006, 12:43:11 am
Post by: kevvosa on December 11, 2006, 04:38:10 pm
Post by: DoKtor on December 11, 2006, 06:14:34 pm
My original post was entirely appropriate and topical.
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
If he is not on a sufficiently high intellectual plain to understand the topic or
contribute in a constructive manner,then he should stick to his Smurfland
dot-to-dot books
Post by: loulou on December 11, 2006, 06:24:58 pm
Post by: smurfboy on December 11, 2006, 07:44:43 pm
The Blue Boy started it,not me.
My original post was entirely appropriate and topical.
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
If he is not on a sufficiently high intellectual plain to understand the topic or
contribute in a constructive manner,then he should stick to his Smurfland
dot-to-dot books
If you were on a 'high intellectual plain' you'd know to leave a space after an apostrophe.
I understand the topic completely. I just think you're short-sighted and stupid.
Post by: kevvosa on December 11, 2006, 09:55:00 pm
I think this topic has gone into another galaxy altogether. Can't we agree to disagree and let it drop?
Post by: loulou on December 11, 2006, 11:07:45 pm
Post by: oldspice on December 12, 2006, 07:06:04 am
I hope this doesn't turn into Midget Gem warfare!
Post by: kevvosa on December 12, 2006, 08:36:04 am
Debating is healthy isn't it?
I think it's gone beyond that!
Post by: smurfboy on December 12, 2006, 11:24:20 pm
Post by: loulou on December 13, 2006, 08:37:25 am
Post by: bluekitty on December 15, 2006, 02:12:00 pm
I just want them to bring back the liquorice ones.
A while back I did complain to cadburys on replacing this with blackcurrant but they stated that they had no intentions of bringing back the liquorice ones
Post by: smurfboy on December 15, 2006, 07:27:25 pm
Post by: kevvosa on December 15, 2006, 09:18:42 pm
Post by: shaka on December 15, 2006, 10:14:54 pm
I like Midget Gems as they are now... Cadbury owned Lions years before they changed them to maynards.The name makes people think they taste different..Other than the Liquorice one they are exactly the same!
Post by: oldspice on December 16, 2006, 09:14:45 am
Post by: smurfboy on December 16, 2006, 02:24:32 pm
Post by: kevvosa on December 16, 2006, 02:48:22 pm
Post by: Velvet Darkness on December 17, 2006, 06:22:25 pm
I pick all the black ones out and eat them first.
I used to when they were liquorice flavoured. I think I'll keep my money in my pocket from now on.
As smurfboy said there are more important things in life. No-one could or really should argue with that. After all at the end of the day it is only a chocolate or sweet product and it's demise will not adversely affect the state of the nation.
But this is what we're all here on this forum for though isn't it? To discuss the yummy stuff we love, and all the stuff we used to love that isn't here any more? All too often the reason it isn't being made now is that one company bought the other company and then changed or discontinued a lot of the products because they were not 'economically viable', or did not 'fit in' with the product surveys that had been done. If there is a chance (however slim) to save one of those products then I will do what I can.
I will sign your petition DoKtor. I am not sure how much good it will do, large companies do not seem to want to hear what we have to say no matter what they say to the contrary, but I will sign it anyway.
Velvet.
Post by: DoKtor on December 18, 2006, 06:54:30 pm
Post by: Velvet Darkness on December 18, 2006, 11:06:07 pm
You're welcome DoKtor.
I signed the petition.
Post by: DoKtor on December 20, 2006, 06:43:41 am