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Title: Halloween
Post by: Freddie on October 28, 2006, 01:24:09 pm

Halloween..Guy Fawkes Night what ever it may be that you call it..


what happens around your area ??


here we get the little kids all dressed up going 'trick or treating' very cute they are too..


anyway my question is..do you buy in treats to hand out ?


this year we bought..a box of 64 bags of Cheese Sticks..a box of 50 Candy necklaces and a box of 70 mini Hershey bars..eg..'Oh Henrys' 'Kissables' 'Reese Cups' 'Glosettes' and mini 'Hersey' choclate bars..i just hope that's enough..

Title: Halloween
Post by: smurfboy on October 28, 2006, 01:47:20 pm

Halloween and Guy Fawkes Night (Bonfire Night) are different things.


I think you're mad wasting all that money. Why should you give food to children just because they dress up and knock at the door? Thankfully I now live in a block with a secure code, so the little brats can't get in and pester me.

Title: Halloween
Post by: Freddie on October 28, 2006, 02:04:17 pm

Quote from: smurfboy
I think you're mad wasting all that money. Why should you give food to children just because they dress up and knock at the door? Thankfully I now live in a block with a secure code, so the little brats can't get in and pester me.


Think what you like..but mad i am not..


i hand out candy by choice not because i have to..i like to see the little kids in their costumes and be happy without a care in the world before they grow up and realise what a bad world we live in..where there are grumpy people who lock themselves up in secured coded blocks..and believe that 4,5,6 and 7yrs olds have it in them to be Brats

Title: Halloween
Post by: smurfboy on October 28, 2006, 02:44:42 pm

I don't 'lock myself up' as you put it!  Lots of people enjoy security and not being pestered by door to door sellers or religious zealots. You asked if people bought 'candy' to give out, I responded with my opinion - if you didn't want to know, you shouldn't have asked.


Maybe you are very lucky, and where you live the kids are sweet storybook types who politely knock and ask for treats once a year, delighting the assembled company with their costumes and adorable antics. Maybe when you've lived somewhere where the kids don't bother to dress up and instead just walk up to you and say 'trick or treat - give us some money then' and chuck eggs at your window if you don't, you'll be less pious about the whole thing.

Title: Halloween
Post by: smurfboy on October 28, 2006, 02:46:04 pm
Quote from: Freddie

and believe that 4,5,6 and 7yrs olds have it in them to be Brats



Of course they do! And what the hell are the parents thinking sending kids of that age on their own?

Title: Halloween
Post by: Forth Bridges on October 28, 2006, 02:54:45 pm
Halloween and Guy Fawkes Night
are diffrent:

Halloween: ghost and ghouls!

 Guy Fawkes Night: fire works, and celelbratying that someone nearly blow up parmliemnt, ah happy days

Title: Halloween
Post by: Jamsi on October 28, 2006, 03:01:59 pm

I always buy treats for the kids that come to the door but if they come any time before 31st I tell them to go away and come on the correct date.


Not had any trouble so far but we do live in a quiet area so only get a few trick or treaters.


I usually buy lollies and the multi packs of haribo then give them each a small bag of haribo and a lolly. No one has ever asked for money and if they did I wouldn't give them any as trick or treat is supposed to  be...


"Trick or treat, give us something good to eat"


Money is not for eating!

Title: Halloween
Post by: Freddie on October 28, 2006, 03:37:29 pm

Quote from: smurfboy
You asked if people bought 'candy' to give out, I responded with my opinion - if you didn't want to know, you shouldn't have asked.


you are correct..and i do want to know what people think..i apologise for my remark toward you..


Quote from: smurfboy
Maybe you are very lucky, and where you live the kids are sweet storybook types who politely knock and ask for treats once a year, delighting the assembled company with their costumes and adorable antics. Maybe when you've lived somewhere where the kids don't bother to dress up and instead just walk up to you and say 'trick or treat - give us some money then' and chuck eggs at your window if you don't, you'll be less pious about the whole thing.


yes maybe i am lucky NOW..and just so you know..living in Scotland most of my life i DO know what it's like..


Quote from: Freddie
and believe that 4,5,6 and 7yrs olds have it in them to be Brats


Quote from: smurfboy
Of course they do! And what the hell are the parents thinking sending kids of that age on their own?


the parents don't send them out on there own..the parents come along with them..as not only do the kids get a dressed up but people dress up there houses and lawns and get into the spirit of it all..


i'm sorry if this thread hasn't quite turned out like i hoped..and i'm also sorry you can't experience what i will on Tuesday evening..

Title: Halloween
Post by: smurfboy on October 28, 2006, 04:18:25 pm
I'll live.
Title: Halloween
Post by: loulou on October 28, 2006, 05:42:40 pm
I look out of the window and if it is my neighbours kids I will answer the door and give them sweets. If anyone says 'trick or treat' I remind them we are not in America and give them nothing. I like 'the sky is blue, the grass is green, have you got a penny for halloween' . That can get 50p and a bar of choc off me.
Title: Halloween
Post by: Forth Bridges on October 28, 2006, 05:44:58 pm
I like halloween is comeing, the gesse are getting fat, do you have a faring for the old man hat, if you don;t have a farning a fiver will do, if you don;t have a fiver, god bleess you! 
Title: Halloween
Post by: loulou on October 28, 2006, 05:53:49 pm
That's sweet 623.
Title: Halloween
Post by: oldspice on October 28, 2006, 07:41:38 pm
I don't 'celebrate' halloween and I don't encourage kids to knock at my door.  I put a polite notice on my door explaining that I do not do halloween.  I do give out small chocolate bars and sweeties to the local kids at Christmas as I think that is more fitting. I am very concerned at the way halloween has grown in recent years and I feel it is just an excuse for money-making.
Title: Halloween
Post by: wjp666 on October 28, 2006, 08:45:46 pm
in my opinion, Halloween is an extremely cool thing for kids... and we should all make a little more effort to celebrate it more. it always bugged me when i was a lad that no-one else on my street carved pumpkins or understood what the hell i even meant by 'trick or treat'. i think this is one occasion where the Yanks have it right. (so there.)
Title: Halloween
Post by: smurfboy on October 28, 2006, 08:49:08 pm
But do any of them actually understand it's a pagan festival? I can't understand for the life of me why American go to Halloween parties dressed as people like Marilyn Monroe or Elvis - what do they have to do with it?
Title: Halloween
Post by: oldspice on October 28, 2006, 09:31:42 pm
How have the Yanks got it right? Halloween is the night the dead are supposed to walk the earth. It is not a festival to make light of.  The following day is All Saints Day, when goodness and rightgeousness is restored. I see no merit in dressing as ghosts and ghouls.
Title: Halloween
Post by: Jamsi on October 28, 2006, 10:46:53 pm
If anyone wants posters to put up at their window/door to deter or welcome trick or treaters there are lots on the freebie thread
Title: Halloween
Post by: Freddie on October 28, 2006, 11:28:21 pm

it's not just celebrated in America...


http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/Halloween.ht ml

Title: Halloween
Post by: Forth Bridges on October 28, 2006, 11:28:38 pm
MMM Yes the Yanks may have it right BUT

Freddie IS NOT A YANK shes a EX scot in Canada!

Title: Halloween
Post by: kevvosa on October 29, 2006, 09:19:28 am
I 'sort of' like Halloween because I like pumpkins and horror movies. So I'll probably be making pumpkin pie and watching Halloween (the film) next week.

As for putting a sign on your door saying you don't do Halloween - wouldn't that just encourage the kids to throw eggs at your door? My mam never used to open the door on Halloween and made it look like no one was in. The worst we had was some flour on the doorstep and a broken egg.

Title: Halloween
Post by: on October 29, 2006, 09:56:47 am

I think Haloween is stupid nonesense.  I never got involved in it as  child because I don't like the idea of ghosts and ghouls and vampires etc.  It is celebrated in a very different way in America and parents and children get involved and it's far more organised and is just another event like Thanksgiving or July 4th.  Not so in this country; it's just another excuse for a lot of children to be a nuisance.  Not all of them - there are still some nice children but I suspect they don't do Haloween.


As Oldspice says it's a corruption of All Hallows eve.

Title: Halloween
Post by: smurfboy on October 29, 2006, 12:11:34 pm

Quote from: 623058
MMM Yes the Yanks may have it right BUT

Freddie IS NOT A YANK shes a EX scot in Canada!


How is this relevant? What WJP was saying is that Halloween is more widely celebrated in the US and that, in his opinion, that's a good thing. He never mentioned Freddie!

Title: Halloween
Post by: Forth Bridges on October 29, 2006, 12:15:41 pm
never mind 
Title: Halloween
Post by: on October 29, 2006, 12:19:38 pm

Title: Halloween
Post by: kevvosa on October 29, 2006, 12:46:59 pm

Title: Halloween
Post by: on October 29, 2006, 01:17:39 pm
Title: Halloween
Post by: wjp666 on October 29, 2006, 03:33:10 pm

Quote from: oldspice
How have the Yanks got it right? Halloween is the night the dead are supposed to walk the earth. It is not a festival to make light of.  The following day is All Saints Day, when goodness and rightgeousness is restored. I see no merit in dressing as ghosts and ghouls.


a lot of our special occasions stem from something horrible or pagan... it's just a bit of fun, really. kids love that kinda thing.


i mean Mayday is based around paganism, isnt it? and the sight of children dancing around a maypole doesn't seem at all twisted, does it? (even though the myapole represents a giant penis!)


people of britain - lighten up... kids love horror and gore and ghost stories. it's not seriously demonic in any way. i say halloween is a great, alternative holiday.

wjp66639019.6509953704
Title: Halloween
Post by: Forth Bridges on October 29, 2006, 03:41:27 pm
 

you just have to remember Carry on screaming! to prove that

Title: Halloween
Post by: StrollingMinstrel on October 29, 2006, 05:16:01 pm

Whoops .... I'm afraid I'm in the 'pooper' camp on this one.


I don't like it when kids knock at the door in a roundabout way 'begging' for things. I have in the past made up little bags of mixed sweets with a halloween theme.


I get quite irritated when kids turn up on any night other than 31 Oct.


One year we had loads of kids turn up on the wrong night and when I told them to come back on the right night they said .... 'we can't do that we're going round to other houses on that night!!'


I'm afraid I won't let my two boys go trick or treating.... much to their discust. I just can't do it.... it feels like begging and I've never wanted to encourage my boys to knock on strangers doors.


On the other hand I completely ok with halloween parties or such like.


 


 


 

Title: Halloween
Post by: kevvosa on October 29, 2006, 06:38:27 pm
Like everything Halloween has good and bad points. It's the commercialising of it that spoils it.

I see nothing wrong with a traditional way of celebrating it - carving pumpkins, dressing up, having fun etc. Even trick or treating could be nice, but kids just get too greedy and spoilt.



Title: Halloween
Post by: wjp666 on October 29, 2006, 08:40:29 pm
indeed. i remember a group of kids last year (who weren't even in costume) turned their noses up at sweets... and demanded 'cash only', instead. that sort of thing pisses me right off. wjp66639019.8615856481
Title: Halloween
Post by: on October 29, 2006, 08:46:28 pm

There ought to be a sixth form girls Haloween party, I'd be all for that.  I'd give them sweets... and things.


I've got a record by a group called Helloween

Title: Halloween
Post by: Jamsi on October 29, 2006, 08:55:04 pm

I just had a little boy knock on my door asking trick or treat, I told him it's not Halloween yet and if he comes back Tuesday I may have something for him. He said he won't be here Tuesday so i just said sorry I only do trick or treat on halloween night not before.


He went next door and she said she had 3 of them!

Title: Halloween
Post by: on October 29, 2006, 09:11:10 pm
You should have had him in and given him a cup of tea or something you Scrooge.
Title: Halloween
Post by: smurfboy on October 30, 2006, 01:32:25 pm
If you invited a child in for a cup of tea in this day and age, you'd probably find yourself either accused of being a paedo, or the subject of a compensation claim because the tea was too hot and they burnt their mouth.
Title: Halloween
Post by: smurfboy on October 30, 2006, 01:34:28 pm

According to today's news, 'nuisance kids' who go trick or treating could be prosecuted under anti-social behaviour awards.


I'm saying nothing

Title: Halloween
Post by: Cherry_Ripe on October 30, 2006, 02:15:26 pm

I live in a fairly quiet cul-de-sac so I can only imagine what people in cities and on estates have to deal with.


Looking out of my bedroom window yesterday afternoon I saw 2 local boys (about 10 years old) accidentally kick a football into an elderly neighbour's garden. It was about 5pm so it was almost dark. The neighbour was either out or ignoring the knocks at the door. The boys threw stones at the windows, tried three different ways of climbing into the garden, and when they realised if they climbed in they wouldn't be able to climb out again, they spat over the fence and broke 3 bits off the fence. I am in no doubt they will be back.


These are the same kids who will be around tomorrow trick or treating. If they think I am ignoring them they are bound to do something to my car / house / fence / garden. If I open the door I have to give them something. Why should we have to reward such menaces?

Title: Halloween
Post by: wjp666 on October 30, 2006, 03:04:02 pm

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/2006/10/life-and-death-pumpkin.ht ml


something for us all to think about...

Title: Halloween
Post by: Cherry_Ripe on October 30, 2006, 03:14:53 pm

I watched the film but I guess there must have been sound (at work we don't have soundcards) so I didn't really get what it was about.

Title: Halloween
Post by: smurfboy on October 30, 2006, 03:17:30 pm
Hmm... maybe it gets more exciting as it goes on, but I lost the will to live after a couple of minutes.
Title: Halloween
Post by: wjp666 on October 30, 2006, 07:13:39 pm
it's a quirky little film, but it does drag a bit.
Title: Halloween
Post by: wjp666 on October 31, 2006, 05:21:09 pm

well, it's officially Hallowe'en (correct spelling). so happy holloween to anyone out there celebrating it!


Title: Halloween
Post by: oldspice on October 31, 2006, 06:20:35 pm
I've already had two lots of agressive door-knockers. I was in the middle of cooking my evening meal. I just ignored them but wanted to yell out "f**ck OFF!!!"
Title: Halloween
Post by: smurfboy on October 31, 2006, 08:00:31 pm
What a f**king liberty!
Title: Halloween
Post by: loulou on October 31, 2006, 08:09:26 pm
Not one kid knocked my door.
Title: Halloween
Post by: kevvosa on October 31, 2006, 08:47:39 pm
Me either 
Title: Halloween
Post by: wjp666 on October 31, 2006, 09:11:01 pm
been quite thriving down this neck of the woods. lots of door-knockers.
Title: Halloween
Post by: goldencup on November 04, 2006, 09:58:30 pm
I took the extreme precaution of being out of the country for Halloween this year (where I dressed as a witch and enjoyed an excellent themed party).  Usually I give kids sweets (not cash) if they come round on the right night and have made some effort to dress up.  In my area there don't seem to be nearly as many trick or treaters as there were a few years ago so perhaps the bubble has burst.  I do give cash to carol singers though.
Title: Halloween
Post by: oldspice on November 05, 2006, 09:02:50 am
Hope you had a great holiday GC.
Title: Halloween
Post by: kevvosa on November 05, 2006, 10:33:18 am
My family have also reported that they had no trick or treaters this year. My uncle had actually bought some cheap fun size mars bars to give to them. 
Title: Halloween
Post by: smurfboy on November 05, 2006, 12:18:54 pm
Now you will have to eat them. Damn
Title: Halloween
Post by: loulou on November 05, 2006, 05:53:33 pm
How is it that the saying 'never take sweets from strangers' doesn't count at Halloween?
Title: Halloween
Post by: goldencup on November 06, 2006, 11:29:16 pm

Quote from: loulou
How is it that the saying 'never take sweets from strangers' doesn't count at Halloween?


I've always wondered that one too.  Yes thanks Oldspice - great holiday! 

Title: Halloween
Post by: oldspice on November 07, 2006, 06:49:16 am