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Chat => General => Topic started by: kevvosa on October 24, 2006, 10:01:20 pm

Title: Fireworks
Post by: kevvosa on October 24, 2006, 10:01:20 pm
Over the last two days I've noticed loads of fireworks going off. I looked out of my window and saw one young lad light one and then throw it under a car. No doubt loads of people will get killed or be in hospital with severe burns this year.

They should be banned from public sale, why aren't they?

Title: Fireworks
Post by: Forth Bridges on October 24, 2006, 10:18:41 pm
public wont them 
Title: Fireworks
Post by: on October 25, 2006, 12:23:18 pm

The use of fireworks and their sale so far before Bonfire night is a symptom of the decay in society generally.  When I was a child I used fireworks carefully and respectfully. If Bonfire night fell on a Sunday we would let them off on the Saturday or if it was a raining on the Monday.  But nowadays no one has respect for anyone else.  The other night someone was letting them off at gone midnight.   

Title: Fireworks
Post by: wjp666 on October 25, 2006, 03:19:10 pm

you cant ban fireworks! what about the responsible people like myself... why should we suffer just for the morons? (having said that, i say they'll be banned within the next decade.)

Title: Fireworks
Post by: smurfboy on October 25, 2006, 03:33:29 pm
Quote from: wjp666

you cant ban fireworks! what about the responsible people like myself... why should we suffer just for the morons?


Exactly - it's the same with 24-hour drinking. Of course there will be some irresponsible people who can't handle it; why should that mean the rest of us should let the government decide we can't have a pint at five past eleven?

Title: Fireworks
Post by: oldspice on October 25, 2006, 03:38:51 pm

Last night's fireworks were probably due to Eid. Yesterday was Eid, marking the end of Ramadan.


On Friday and Saturday it was Duwalli, a Hindu festival of which fireworks play a part.

Title: Fireworks
Post by: smurfboy on October 25, 2006, 03:43:11 pm
In Australia and parts of the US, fireworks have been banned from public sale for years.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: kevvosa on October 25, 2006, 04:53:40 pm

Quote from: smurfboy

Exactly - it's the same with 24-hour drinking. Of course there will be some irresponsible people who can't handle it; why should that mean the rest of us should let the government decide we can't have a pint at five past eleven?



What about the public smoking ban? And the junk food advert ban? If these things can be banned (which don't kill people) then why not fireworks?

What I'm getting at is that they should only be available for private parties and displays and so on. Anyway, fireworks you buy from shops are usually crap.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: smurfboy on October 25, 2006, 05:32:12 pm

I do see your point, and I know you weren't suggesting they were banned altogether. I suppose what I'm getting at is that people don't have to buy fireworks, and most people let them off in their own gardens. With smoking, you don't get the choice about other people blowing it in your face in pubs etc. and potentially causing you damage through passive smoking. That's why I support the ban. 

Title: Fireworks
Post by: wjp666 on October 25, 2006, 07:12:02 pm

i think there's too mcuh 'banning' going on these days. gollywogs, electric hand-buzzers, alcoholic coke (ish), gas-powered airguns... fireworks WILL be one of the next to go. and it's just all so sad. bring back the 1970's/80's! everything was legal and political correctness didn't exist.


and i dont want to go to organised firework displays! i want to buy them myself and let them off myself in my own back garden for my kids, like my family did for me when i was a nipper. (not that i have any kids of my own, exactly - but you get the point.)

Title: Fireworks
Post by: kevvosa on October 25, 2006, 07:45:20 pm

Quote from: wjp666

and i dont want to go to organised firework displays! i want to buy them myself and let them off myself in my own back garden for my kids, like my family did for me when i was a nipper. (not that i have any kids of my own, exactly - but you get the point.)



Oh I do agree, as a kid I used to love it when we had our own bonfire and fireworks. What I'm against are these horrible chavs who get fireworks and do stupid things with them.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: goldencup on October 25, 2006, 07:55:13 pm
I bought one of those firework 'cakes' that you just light once and it puts on a display for you - £6.99 and it does 70 or 80 so that seemed good value to me.  I bought it for my son's 18th last week but it has poured with rain every night ever since so we're still waiting to light the thing....watch this space!
Title: Fireworks
Post by: wjp666 on October 25, 2006, 09:18:14 pm

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Title: Fireworks
Post by: wjp666 on October 25, 2006, 09:19:31 pm

Quote from: kevvosa

Oh I do agree, as a kid I used to love it when we had our own bonfire and fireworks. What I'm against are these horrible chavs who get fireworks and do stupid things with them.


oh, absolutely. theres always some pricks who want to strap them to their neighbours poodle... or some half-witted parent who lets little Timmy blow all the fingers off his right hand every year.

Title: Fireworks
Post by: on October 25, 2006, 10:08:18 pm
A case in point this where utilitarian measures are called for.  Either you ban them to keep everyone safe or you introduce strict penalties, and I mean really Draconian ones for anyone found letting them off before a certain date and/or misusing them.  Obviously Eid, Chinese New Year and Divali etc would be exempt (date wise that is). 
Title: Fireworks
Post by: smurfboy on October 25, 2006, 11:18:50 pm
I think the police have better things to do than check whether people are letting fireworks off on the right date.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: oldspice on October 26, 2006, 08:20:57 am

We do have by-laws in Peterbrorough. At one time things got so bad fireworks were going off four nights of the week all year round. They were also being let off in thye day time for Muslim weddings and they were using super-strength ones that are not allowed to be used by people without training.


The local authority decided to pass a by-law making it illegal to let them off outside specified dates and times.  It was policed by the envirnmental health department and worked really well. We don't get much abuse of the by-law because people have been prosecuted.

Title: Fireworks
Post by: on November 05, 2006, 08:20:49 am
They do now seem to be an excuse for annoying people to be more annoying.  I was trying to go to sleep last night and someone was letting fireworks off at 12:45.

Are they just mad or what?  I know that's technically November 5th but do me a favour!
Title: Fireworks
Post by: oldspice on November 05, 2006, 09:06:42 am

One night a car drove past a restaurant in Peterborough and lobbed a firework into the open front door. It caused panic and chaos inside but fortunatley noone was hurt.


The following night they were foolish enough to return and do the same thing. They were caught on CCTV and stopped by the police in seconds. A 29 year old man, aided by three teenagers, was arrested.


Can you believe this? It's bad enough that teenagers are stupid and wicked enough to do such a thing but a grown man must really have a few screws loose.


How would I punish them? Lock them up for a month and giver them hard labour - stone crushing or such like.

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Title: Fireworks
Post by: kevvosa on November 05, 2006, 10:36:43 am

Quote from: bounty hunter
They do now seem to be an excuse for annoying people to be more annoying.  I was trying to go to sleep last night and someone was letting fireworks off at 12:45.



Are they just mad or what?  I know that's technically November 5th but do me a favour!


Oh come on. When it's the 4th or 5th you come to expect fireworks going off.

Try living underneath a flat where the people above play ridiculously loud music for 15 hours non stop. That's what I had to suffer over the weekend. I had environmental health out yesterday and the flat in question will be getting a harshly worded letter next week.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: on November 05, 2006, 11:35:49 am
 
Quote from: kevvosa

Quote from: bounty hunter
They do now seem to be an excuse for annoying people to be more annoying.  I was trying to go to sleep last night and someone was letting fireworks off at 12:45.

Are they just mad or what?  I know that's technically November 5th but do me a favour!
Oh come on. When it's the 4th or 5th you come to expect fireworks going off. Try living underneath a flat where the people above play ridiculously loud music for 15 hours non stop. That's what I had to suffer over the weekend. I had environmental health out yesterday and the flat in question will be getting a harshly worded letter next week.


No, I'm sorry, at 8pm I expect fireworks to go off but 12:45 in the morning just about takes the bally biscuit!
Title: Fireworks
Post by: oldspice on November 05, 2006, 12:18:59 pm

By law, fireworks must not be let off after 11pm.

Title: Fireworks
Post by: on November 05, 2006, 12:56:28 pm
fat chance of the morons round here taking notice of laws.  Most of them drag their knuckles.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: smurfboy on November 05, 2006, 01:02:47 pm
I think fireworks are great fun if used properly, but there are a lot of yobs who just use them to make a lot of noise to annoy or scare people.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: kevvosa on November 05, 2006, 01:24:14 pm

Quote from: bounty hunter



No, I'm sorry, at 8pm I expect fireworks to go off but 12:45 in the morning just about takes the bally biscuit!


Invest in double glazing.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: loulou on November 05, 2006, 05:51:57 pm
It will be fireworks every night from now until new years night.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Cherry_Ripe on November 09, 2006, 03:13:34 pm

Funny kind of fireworks in Sunderland:


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/6132140.stm

Title: Fireworks
Post by: kevvosa on November 09, 2006, 06:38:44 pm
I'm not surprised, people in Sunderland are bonkers. 
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Cherry_Ripe on November 10, 2006, 08:06:10 am
Title: Fireworks
Post by: loulou on November 10, 2006, 04:43:12 pm
He was copying something he seen on Jackass. loulou39031.6975810185
Title: Fireworks
Post by: kevvosa on November 10, 2006, 07:11:28 pm
Do you know him personally lou? 
Title: Fireworks
Post by: loulou on November 12, 2006, 01:05:13 am
Thankfully no.