Post by: loulou on October 14, 2006, 11:15:05 pm
Post by: Gilly0812 on October 15, 2006, 12:04:08 am
Hi Loulou
Babies in this country are actually very hard to adopt. They are very few and far between because of our contraception/abortion alternatives.
My sister has just managed to adopt a baby from Guatemala. Daisy, she is gorgeous and due be here in about 4 weeks. It has taken YEARS to get her. My sister tried and tried to adopt from this country but she and her husband both have a history of cancer. This has made it difficult for them to be considered suitable parents (they are both clear of cancer now thank God). Eventually she was encouraged to adopt an older child from a heroin addicted mother. That is not what she wanted. The adoption people in this country made her feel guilty because it was not what she wanted. Hence she went overseas. I am sooo looking forward to meeting little Daisy soon.
Post by: smurfboy on October 15, 2006, 02:23:39 pm
Post by: oldspice on October 15, 2006, 03:21:28 pm
I think it's admiral that people wish to give a baby who would otherwise live in an orphanage an good home. God Bless Daisy and her new home Gilly.
However, two thing concern me. Firstly, every help shoud be given to countries that have a high number of homeless babies so that members of their own population are willing to adopt them and bring them up in their own culture. This will take a very long time indeed and meanwhile I welcome these babies with open arms.
The second thing that concerns me is the habit of celebrities to adopt exotic-looking babies from disadvantaged communities and obtain a huge amount of publicity as a result.
Finally, I wish there were more people willing to adopt older children from these countries who are all too often left to fend for themselves on the streets.
Post by: loulou on October 15, 2006, 03:52:15 pm
The organisation, Eye of the Child, said it would seek a court injunction if the government did not halt its interim order approving the adoption.
"It's not like selling property," the group said in a statement.
Madonna is thought to have flown out of Malawi on Friday without the child, having filed adoption papers to adopt the one-year-old, called David Banda.
Post by: Cherry_Ripe on October 16, 2006, 09:37:49 am
Why is Madonna adopting an African orphan? Can't she find a baby in this country to adopt?
He's not even an orphan; he has a father who who couldn't cope after his wife's death. In my view this adoption, if it goes ahead, is not in the best interests of this boy.
If Madonna wants to help this boy she should sponsor his family, his village even, and help the community to help themselves in their own country.
Post by: smurfboy on October 16, 2006, 12:11:37 pm
Post by: Cherry_Ripe on October 16, 2006, 01:15:05 pm
According to the BBC news website, Madonna has pledged to donate about $3m (£1.6m) to help 900,000 orphans in Malawi.
If this is so, and she genuinely believes she is making a difference, then why does she want to take this one little boy home?
Post by: smurfboy on October 16, 2006, 01:32:35 pm
Post by: loulou on October 16, 2006, 11:48:57 pm
Quote from: loulouWhy is Madonna adopting an African orphan? Can't she find a baby in this country to adopt?He's not even an orphan; he has a father who who couldn't cope after his wife's death. In my view this adoption, if it goes ahead, is not in the best interests of this boy.
If Madonna wants to help this boy she should sponsor his family, his village even, and help the community to help themselves in their own country.
I agree with Cherry. Madonna should donate money to help this boy stay with his father.
Post by: oldspice on October 17, 2006, 07:36:50 am
That child comes from a loving but poor community. It's criminal to take him out of that and into our putrid, money-grapping, image-obessed country.
How would we feel if people in Malwi started to try and adopt white orphan children from this country?
Post by: kevvosa on October 17, 2006, 10:24:51 am
How would we feel if people in Malwi started to try and adopt white orphan children from this country?
There would be an uproar. This is what I hate about being part of our culutre - we take take take but never give back.
Post by: smurfboy on October 17, 2006, 02:33:33 pm
Am I the only one who keeps thinking of The Royle Family whenever they talk about 'baby David' on the news?
Apparently Madonna has secured a US visa for the baby, suggesting she will try and adopt him under more lenient US adoption laws.
Post by: lorri on October 18, 2006, 12:21:03 am
Post by: loulou on October 18, 2006, 12:52:08 am
Post by: oldspice on October 18, 2006, 08:10:40 am
Post by: goldencup on October 18, 2006, 09:14:27 am
Celebrities get these black babies as if they are buying the latest Prada handbag.
You're right Lou, but it's not just celebrities. A lot of people seem to think that babies are fashion accessories.
Post by: Cherry_Ripe on October 18, 2006, 12:06:45 pm
Apparently now Madonna wants a girl from Malawi.
Post by: goldencup on October 18, 2006, 04:41:23 pm
Apparently now Madonna wants a girl from Malawi.
But only if it comes with a matching handbag.
Post by: smurfboy on October 18, 2006, 05:03:50 pm
Post by: kevvosa on October 18, 2006, 05:36:43 pm
Post by: loulou on October 19, 2006, 03:45:18 pm
Post by: smurfboy on October 19, 2006, 05:44:22 pm
Post by: loulou on October 20, 2006, 12:17:06 am
Post by: EasterBunny on October 20, 2006, 09:40:34 am
If I had the money I would adopt a baby from overseas. I have been in very poor countries where mothers offer to sell you their children and it is heart wrenching to see the state that some children live in. I also know that unfortunately most of the children that come up for adoption here in the UK are very damaged, by drugs or abuse, some to the point where they would be a danger to any other children in the home, I personally think this is the fault of social services for not being able to offer enough support. From what I gather Madonna has wanted another child for a while, and for whatever reason has not had another of her own. Not being able to have children, even if you have them already, has a huge effect on you, and I don't think you can understand it unless you have been there. As for her getting publicity, well I don't think Madonna can do anything without getting it.
My only concern is about the time she has to spend with this new baby and her other children- i watched her documentary, they seemed lovely kids but they missed her so much when she was away, which was a lot. I do agree that the US seems to be very different when it comes to adoption- does anyone actually know where Michael Jackson's newest child came from? Do you think he attended adoption classes?
Post by: kevvosa on October 20, 2006, 04:31:43 pm
Shall I put some adopted babies on ebay and see how much people will bid?
Wasn't there a scandal some years ago about a couple who had adopted a baby over the Internet?
Post by: loulou on October 20, 2006, 09:45:01 pm
Yes and it was nothing to do with me.Post by: loulou on November 02, 2006, 12:21:09 am
Sounds like she ordered some shoes from the catalogue.
Post by: oldspice on November 02, 2006, 06:42:41 am
Post by: smurfboy on November 02, 2006, 10:25:04 am
'A Womb Of One's Own' eh? 
Sinitta is infertile I think - she was having twins by a surrogate mum last year, but she miscarried.
Post by: Cherry_Ripe on November 02, 2006, 01:01:46 pm
In a magazine interview Sinitta says she is waiting for 2 babies she is adopting to be delivered.
I thought it was normal to call giving birth a delivery?
Post by: loulou on November 02, 2006, 03:16:34 pm
Post by: oldspice on November 03, 2006, 06:57:18 am
'A Womb Of One's Own' eh?
Sinitta is infertile I think - she was having twins by a surrogate mum last year, but she miscarried.
I wonder what Virginia would think of all this baby farming?