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Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: Forth Bridges on August 31, 2006, 12:31:39 am

firslty what are there? are there linked with teh 11+? 
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Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: goldencup on August 31, 2006, 12:32:11 am
Yes
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: Forth Bridges on August 31, 2006, 12:34:04 am
personnealy there could came back AS LONG As bog starnded comperhsaion get more funding, look at "that i;;l teach them" to provde more moneyinthat get the lower down kids amneven better eduction! 
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: EasterBunny on August 31, 2006, 12:37:01 am

Grammar schools take the top 25% of children at 11.  The selection is based on teacher assessment as well as a written test.  I have never taught in an area where they have them, but I did go to one, a grils school and I loved it.  My brother went to one too but claims it was the worst thing he ever did.  My parents both went to one, where they met- my dad grew up in the bad side of Brighton, and some might say that going there was the making of him, plus he met my mummy who was from the posher side.

Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: goldencup on August 31, 2006, 12:38:26 am
Top 25%?  Not here they don't, it's about the top 8%.
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: Forth Bridges on August 31, 2006, 12:38:45 am
thikn there shoudl go back As LONG AS THE funding ther for EVERYONE!

that why labour scrap them unfair!

Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: Forth Bridges on August 31, 2006, 12:39:28 am

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Top 25%?  Not here they don't, it's about the top 8%.


there probaly needed to fil upi the school
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: smurfboy on August 31, 2006, 12:40:44 am
I refused to take the grammar school exam. I don't believe in that kind of segregation when there is streaming in comprehensives anyway.
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: goldencup on August 31, 2006, 12:41:50 am

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Top 25%?  Not here they don't, it's about the top 8%.


there probaly needed to fil upi the school


I think you have that the wrong way round 623. 

Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: Forth Bridges on August 31, 2006, 12:42:12 am
comprehensives - is this the place where the other 90% went?

this is the one isses it was BADLY under funded!

Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: goldencup on August 31, 2006, 12:51:32 am
Do you think education is all down to funding then 623?  I can tell you that our local Grammar is the lowest funded school in the area and it does the best.
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: Forth Bridges on August 31, 2006, 01:13:18 am
fundung half the battle

if  you  have the al the th eequiment you need then great

if not it will be a up hill straugle!

Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: goldencup on August 31, 2006, 01:18:32 am
What schools need is good teachers and unfortunately it's a fact of life that schools that are seen to be good will generally attract those more than ones lower down those stupid tables.  I don't believe equipment makes a lot of difference.
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: oldspice on August 31, 2006, 08:19:09 am
There is no need for grammar schools. Comprehensive schools can stream their pupils and challenge the brightest. There is no such thing as a 'bog standard comprehensive school'. This is a label invented by the press. In Peterborough, where there is 'supposed to be no selection', we have one of the best 'comprehensives' in the country but have also had among the worst performing schools. The truth is the 'comprehensive' school is a former grammar school in a leafy area and it creams off the best students for miles around. This in turn attracts the best teaching graduates (from Oxbridge) and so it goes on.
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Post by: Cherry_Ripe on August 31, 2006, 09:11:39 am

The most studious pupils will get good exam results at either type of school. I think the main difference between the comprehensive and the grammar school is the better personal and social education which goes on at a grammar school.

Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: on August 31, 2006, 09:12:53 am
Grammar schools have the best uniforms.
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Post by: EasterBunny on August 31, 2006, 12:17:49 pm
I think you will find public schools have the best uniforms.  I agree that a brilliant student will shine anywhere but for someone like me who was not the best, quite shy and easily influenced by naughty boys, a girls grammar school was the best place for me to learn.  As I said, my brother hated his boys grammar.  Unfortunately it depends on the child.  As for grammar schools getting the best teachers, not always the case, they probably get the luckiest teachers as grammar schools are fairly easy to teach in.  Lots of teachers are anti grammar schools and in my experience middle class teachers who have been to posh schools and the best universities often want to get "down with the kids" and choose to work in deprived areas and choose not to work in grammar schools.  Sometimes this does not work well as the pupils and their parents don't relate to them
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: on September 01, 2006, 08:56:46 am

"I think you will find public schools have the best uniforms."


I always thought they were too prissy.  I'm not quite sure of the difference between a public school and a private school.  Nottingham high school is fee paying and they have excellent uniforms. 

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Post by: loulou on September 01, 2006, 05:09:43 pm
We have a private school here called Kings and the uniform for the little ones is excellent. The little girls have straw hats and the boys have caps and they all look so cute.
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Post by: smurfboy on September 01, 2006, 05:15:47 pm
And I bet the kids hate every second of wearing it.
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Post by: loulou on September 01, 2006, 05:17:43 pm
They look happy enough. There's a girls school nearby where all the 15/16 year olds go and their uniform is dark green and they also wear straw hats. They are always immaculately turned out and I think they like their uniform.
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: salsa on September 01, 2006, 05:28:27 pm

I went to a grammar school and think it was the best thing ever for me personally. My local area only takes a tiny percentage of the pupils eligable, but it seemed worth it for me.


I agree streaming works in most situations, but, not in all. Also, you have to look that streaming also helps the children who didn't get in because it means that the teachers have more time to assist them.


My friends son is too bright for his primary school class and the teacher has complained many a time about this because she said that he takes up too much time because he constantly wants more work!

Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: smurfboy on September 01, 2006, 05:30:19 pm
Was it Queen Mary's Salsa? (Sorry to be nosy, just wondering if we have any mutual friends).
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: salsa on September 01, 2006, 05:32:58 pm
No, it wasn't
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: smurfboy on September 01, 2006, 05:47:13 pm
Oh.
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: on September 01, 2006, 07:14:15 pm
Quote from: salsa

I went to a grammar school and think it was the best thing ever for me personally. My local area only takes a tiny percentage of the pupils eligable, but it seemed worth it for me.


 



Not all they are cracked up to be, eh?

Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: goldencup on September 01, 2006, 07:29:25 pm
It was a Grammar School not a Spelling School.
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: on September 01, 2006, 07:30:19 pm
Yes, that'll learn her, eh?
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: salsa on September 01, 2006, 09:06:29 pm

Well, it will considering I still only have 50% vision.


 

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Post by: on September 02, 2006, 10:22:52 am

This is like a scene from The Office.

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Post by: oldspice on September 02, 2006, 10:23:57 am
Hi David!
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: on September 02, 2006, 11:57:05 am
No, I'm nothing like David Brent.  If i had to be someone out of The Office, it would be Tim.
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Post by: oldspice on September 02, 2006, 12:27:17 pm
If i had to be in The Office I would be a stapler
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: on September 02, 2006, 12:38:31 pm

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No, I'm nothing like David Brent.  If i had to be someone out of The Office, it would be Tim.


Given your weight assertions, recently, I see you more as


Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: Forth Bridges on September 02, 2006, 01:13:43 pm
did yuo know that ricky gevis HAD A CRAP POP CARRE BACK IN 1983!!
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: oldspice on September 02, 2006, 01:14:58 pm
Everybody had a crap pop career back in the 1980s.
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: smurfboy on September 02, 2006, 02:35:10 pm
I would be the jelly in which Tim set Gareth's stapler.
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: on September 02, 2006, 10:28:45 pm

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Everybody had a crap pop career back in the 1980s.


Yes I thought your "Nestle, leave that Rowntree Mackintosh alone" was a particularly shallow song, Oldspice.

Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: on September 03, 2006, 09:49:51 am

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I would be the jelly in which Tim set Gareth's stapler.


I bet you would

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Post by: oldspice on September 03, 2006, 10:05:24 am
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Everybody had a crap pop career back in the 1980s.


Yes I thought your "Nestle, leave that Rowntree Mackintosh alone" was a particularly shallow song, Oldspice.




I was thinking of Wham, Sonia, Rick, Mel & Kim and Bros et al. I think Bros looked like the couple from League of Gentlemen.

Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: smurfboy on September 03, 2006, 01:42:55 pm
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I would be the jelly in which Tim set Gareth's stapler.


I bet you would



Only you could find sexual innuendo in a jelly!

Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: kevvosa on September 03, 2006, 07:31:33 pm

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Everybody had a crap pop career back in the 1980s.


Well at least they didn't have Pop Idol, Popstars and X-Factor in those days.

I prefer 80's pop music to what gets served up on radio these days.
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: loulou on September 03, 2006, 07:32:24 pm
We can't live in the past and need to move with the times.
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: kevvosa on September 03, 2006, 07:34:00 pm
Even if Britney Spears is what 'the times' are?

Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: on September 03, 2006, 07:36:44 pm

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Everybody had a crap pop career back in the 1980s.


Well at least they didn't have Pop Idol, Popstars and X-Factor in those days.

I prefer 80's pop music to what gets served up on radio these days.


You can thank some of those 80's stars for producing today's pap.

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Post by: loulou on September 03, 2006, 07:41:40 pm

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Even if Britney Spears is what 'the times' are?


Oh please keep up kev. Britney is last years news.

Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: kevvosa on September 03, 2006, 08:10:28 pm


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Even if Britney Spears is what 'the times' are?


Oh please keep up kev. Britney is last years news.



I'm aware of that, but after her came thousands more pop princess wannabes.
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Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: oldspice on September 04, 2006, 08:03:52 am
The 80s did, indeed, produce some good music but the vast majority of it was bubble-gum, teeney-bopper-aimed trash. As for today - again there is some very original stuff around but you only have to look at the number of kids listening to Led Zepplin, Iron Maiden and Pink Flyod to realise there is not enough good music to satisfy the more intelligent kids.
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: kevvosa on September 04, 2006, 09:13:42 am
There are actually a lot of artists out there than many people have never even heard of, and the Internet makes it easier to find them with websites like pandora, youtube and so on. You can now watch loads of live performances of singers and bands where once you would have to pay to do so. 
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: on September 04, 2006, 08:03:40 pm

http://www.myspace.com/marillion


Go on, treat yourselves.

Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: loulou on September 05, 2006, 01:11:08 am
That's not a treat. Can I have the chocolate instead?
Title: Grammar Schools
Post by: Forth Bridges on September 05, 2006, 03:51:34 pm
what was the tgreat,I;m strong minded but I ..