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Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: on December 31, 2004, 08:47:37 pm

I'm almost never serious on this forum.  However, when you toast the New Year in just over three hours time remember the thousands of dead children, missing relatives and homeless people in Asia.  We spend millions of pounds blowing people to smithereens and it looks like we can use our billions of surplus pounds to good as well.  I will be donating £25 in the New Year.

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: goldencup on January 01, 2005, 12:33:19 am

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: marble on January 01, 2005, 07:56:56 pm

A very valid statement.

You did not have to inform us of your donation amount, however.

Anyone who can (and wishes to) will donate whatever they feel they can and wish to without letting everyone know how clever they are.

Sorry, I just find it annoying.

I hope this is the start of the world's nations working together, but I am too cynical to believe it to last.

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: on January 01, 2005, 08:47:04 pm

Hello Marble.  Unlike many people, I don't have a hidden agenda.  I was merely pointing out that the usual one pound in the tin is not enough for this one.  This time it's big.

I don't believe that the ability to donate a specific amount is an indication of how clever I am.  



 

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: loulou on January 01, 2005, 11:50:46 pm

What percentage of your £25 do you think will actually get to where it should end up?

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Post by: on January 02, 2005, 08:57:54 am

I don't know.  I would hope all of it.  

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: oldspice on January 02, 2005, 11:51:47 am

Hidden Agenda? Can you elaborate?

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: on January 02, 2005, 12:41:41 pm

I would have thought you were familiar with the term 'hidden agenda' Spicegirl, not that you have one obviously.

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: oldspice on January 02, 2005, 01:23:19 pm

Why do you think Marble has a hidden agenda? That's what I don't understand. Why should anyone posting on the Forum have a hidden agenda? What is the point and where would it get them?

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: loulou on January 02, 2005, 05:40:14 pm

bounty I don't think all your £25 will get there. Only 10% gets to the cause and the other 90% is eaten up in administration charges.

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: on January 03, 2005, 09:24:45 pm

Lou Lou, I doubt that.  I think you are pandering to apocryphal tales.  If you show this to be the case there would be uproar.

Oldspice, I didn't imply that Marble had an hidden agenda, but he seemed to be implying that I had.  I was merely stating that whatever I said is what I meant.  If Marble is offended by me putting my money where my mouth is then tough titty.

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: loulou on January 03, 2005, 10:59:42 pm

No bounty it is true. I think you are being very naive if you think all your £25 is going to get there untouched.

You tell me how an administrator for Scope charity that I know gets £22,000 a year.Where does her wage come from and why does my friend who works in Help the Aged charity shop get paid £5.65 per hour. People assume that people working in charity shops do so voluntarily and unpaid.

And why do Scope charity shop take £15 a week from the takings and keep in a jar so the staff can have a Xmas night out and on their birthdays get a day at a spa having a facial, manicure and massage?

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: loulou on January 03, 2005, 11:06:27 pm

And while I'm on the subject of charity scams I'll tell you about the old lady near me who set herself up at a local market with a stall selling knitted baby clothes and told everyone the money she raised went to the Stroke Association. Having been involved with the Stroke association I mentioned it to them that I gave to this lady regularly for them to tell me she did not work for the Stroke association but would not prosecute as it was bad publicity and they believed that if the public thought that when they donated money into a collection tin it wasn't going to get to the charity then nothing would ever be donated. They actually told me that they are well aware of certain people who collect and keep the money for themselves but weren't too bothered about it.

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: goldencup on January 04, 2005, 07:45:14 am

Well that's the last time I give my stuff to a Scope shop! By the way I'm a little confused (nothing unusual) - I thought Marble was a she?

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: on January 04, 2005, 08:06:03 am

Lou Lou, OK so I was naive.  Thankyou for pointing it out.  I will give nothing now.

 

Goldencup, I would say Marble is a bloke.

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: oldspice on January 04, 2005, 08:29:56 am

Oh no she's not!!!

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: on January 04, 2005, 08:44:21 am

Marble is a woman?????????

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Post by: goldencup on January 04, 2005, 04:26:10 pm

Marble is Paulham's partner isn't she?  That's what I thought anyway.

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Post by: on January 04, 2005, 04:38:00 pm

Have I been on Mars or something?

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Post by: goldencup on January 04, 2005, 04:40:37 pm

Maybe!

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Post by: chocolate chick on January 04, 2005, 04:44:16 pm

I gave some money for the tsunmi survivors. They were collecting when I went to get a paper and some milk on Monday.

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: goldencup on January 04, 2005, 05:13:28 pm

Bounty, what I should have said was, does eating Mars make you lose your Marbles then?

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: on January 04, 2005, 07:30:56 pm

I am obviously not going to disagree with her........

I think it is the "look how much I've donated" that annoyed her.

Isn't that the job of Governments?!

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: loulou on January 04, 2005, 08:26:18 pm

I have missed you paulham.where have you been?

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: loulou on January 04, 2005, 08:28:04 pm

No need to reply to that one. I just see you have had a bug. Oh dear I hope you are feeling a lot better.

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Post by: on January 04, 2005, 10:13:50 pm

Paulham wrote: 'I think it is the "look how much I've donated" that annoyed her'.

AGAIN!, I have no hidden agenda.  My point was that this is massive.  It's like 100 September 11th's, probably much worse.  The force of earthquake that  caused this Tsunami happens every 75 years.  We should all give £25 and if only 3/4 gets to the people -OK.

A lot of the people affected by this were impoverished anyway without this. 

Paulham and Marble if you can afford £25 then give it.  If you can afford £100 then give that.

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: on January 04, 2005, 10:54:48 pm

Quote from: bounty hunter

Paulham and Marble if you can afford £25 then give it.  If you can afford £100 then give that.

I did not start this argument (this time  ), although I realise I am perpetuating it.

To reply, Bounty, yes we will, but we aren't about to let everyone know about it (the amount).

Everybody is different, but to us it is kinda vulgar.

I believe your heart is in the right place, or the 2 of them Dr.

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: on January 05, 2005, 08:14:33 am

Oh for crying out loud.   OK I'll give £4 if it'll make you happy.

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Post by: chocolate chick on January 05, 2005, 09:26:25 am

I can't remember how much I gave.....just put some money in the bucket. I like to think that it will all help.

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: smurfboy on January 05, 2005, 10:09:45 am

I think anybody giving any amount, be it 25p, £25 or £25,000, is doing their bit and that is what counts.

P.S. I've worked in charity shops and the only people who got paid were the managers, and trust me, they weren't in it for the money - they were on crap wages. It would be nice to think 100% of charity donations go direct to the good cause, but in reality there will always be some running costs. I gave up 8 hours a week to work there, but I wouldn't expect someone to give up 40 hours a week and take on the responsibility of managing a team for free.

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Post by: on January 05, 2005, 11:46:41 am

I'm not having this.  I wasn't boasting about the amount that I'm donating.  I was merely trying to make the point that the normal token gesture of £1 is not enough.  Sure it's better than nothing, but if you can aford more, whether it be £3 or £93 then give it - that's my point.

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: lemoneye on January 05, 2005, 01:47:32 pm

I think BH has been misinterpreted. I dont think there was any intent of boasting or anything - it is very easy to misunderstand a "tone of voice" (obviously) when dealing with the written word.

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: on January 05, 2005, 02:06:59 pm

Thankyou for the suppot Lemoneye, and Happy New Year.

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: lemoneye on January 05, 2005, 03:07:39 pm

You're welcome - and of course a Happy New Year to you too!

Title: Don’t Forget
Post by: loulou on January 05, 2005, 10:22:28 pm

Quote from: paulham

Quote from: bounty hunter

Paulham and Marble if you can afford £25 then give it.  If you can afford £100 then give that.

If you can afford to send me some too that would be good.