Post by: on July 14, 2006, 10:43:35 pm
Post by: loulou on July 14, 2006, 10:48:45 pm
Post by: kevvosa on July 14, 2006, 10:49:06 pm
nothing perverted. It's a shame that we have become such a culture
where a simple kiss on the cheek is viewed as an offence.
Post by: Forth Bridges on July 14, 2006, 10:49:43 pm
Post by: on July 14, 2006, 10:51:36 pm
Mmmm.? The church has said that he 'regrets his actions' and added 'we live in a climate where once innocent actions are misconstrued as suspicious'.
If you ask me a very sad state of affairs.
Post by: kevvosa on July 14, 2006, 10:53:42 pm
he did was assault or something. I bet she is just some chav
bitch.
Post by: loulou on July 14, 2006, 10:54:32 pm
Post by: on July 14, 2006, 10:55:51 pm
Post by: Forth Bridges on July 14, 2006, 10:56:14 pm
Post by: on July 14, 2006, 11:04:35 pm
Victoria Derbyshire was really mean to the vicar on Radio 5 this morning.
Listeners were telling her off for it.
Post by: on July 14, 2006, 11:05:54 pm
Post by: on July 14, 2006, 11:06:52 pm
Post by: on July 14, 2006, 11:12:25 pm
I'm not surprised. I feel sorry for the vicar. While we need to be vigilant of paedophilia, we seem to have lost all balance and common sense in this case. We need to get back to a time when you can talk to little girls show them puppies and rub sun tan lotion on their arms.
Don't let the paedos win! 
Post by: goldencup on July 14, 2006, 11:13:09 pm
Post by: kevvosa on July 14, 2006, 11:14:17 pm
Post by: on July 14, 2006, 11:17:07 pm
Post by: on July 14, 2006, 11:21:30 pm
"it's about keeping a sense of perspective"
Which we haven't had in this case but a knee jerk reaction to a paedophile obsessed public. Fortunately, not all societies are so bogged down. A couple of weeks ago President Putin of Russia kissed a young boy on the belly. When asked why he had done it, he replied, 'He was sweet like a flower, I wanted to hug him but I expressed it like this'. If this had been Tony Blair, they would have been burning effigies. I wouldn't necessarily advocate kissing boys on their bellies, but well done to Putin for acknowledging that tenderness and humanity with a child are not necessarily indications of paedophilia. It might help if the judiciary didn't dish out sentences of eight years for raping a baby!!!
Post by: phyllisbermann on July 15, 2006, 02:07:28 am
Post by: kevvosa on July 15, 2006, 02:09:24 am
something is amiss somewhere. Not sure
where though. The mother? The vicar? The school?
Who do you think is amiss, do you think the vicar did wrong?
Post by: phyllisbermann on July 15, 2006, 02:10:44 am
Post by: kevvosa on July 15, 2006, 02:12:01 am
Post by: phyllisbermann on July 15, 2006, 02:14:33 am
Post by: kevvosa on July 15, 2006, 02:17:34 am
Post by: wjp666 on July 15, 2006, 02:25:34 am
Post by: EasterBunny on July 15, 2006, 09:00:21 am
I am no expert on Christianity but doesn't a kiss on the forehead symbolise from vicar or priest symbolise a blessing, just as a polite greeting from an English person might involve a handshake or two kisses on the cheek from a French person. Its all about understanding other cultures or Faiths, and you would have thought in this day and age we could do that!
In my opinion the difference is that this kiss was not done in private or in secret, which most cases of nastiness are done, and children, and parents it seems, should be taught the difference between touching and kissing that is appropriate and that which isn't. I would be interested to know if the child was bothered.
I think we are becoming a messed up society about our kids, I have recently heard parents slating others for letting their little kids go naked on a beach while dressing theirs in little frilly bikinis, and don't get me started on Bratz dolls!
Post by: on July 15, 2006, 09:18:23 am
I suspect, from what I have heard the furore has been caused by the little girl's mother, who through her own ignorance and inability to discriminate between an innocent act and an evil one has forced the vicar to resign.
This would serve as an important test case if the man was reinstated and everyone took a step back and said 'wait a minute, what actually happened here and why are we expecting this man to resign?'
I don't think as a nation we do enough kissing and hugging. What we are doing is- Yes Kevvosa - letting the paedophiles win. Only by putting innocent affection, or compassion in its proper context will we effectively marginalise paedophiles. By not punishing paedophiles properly we effectively punish such men as this vicar vicariously to vent our frustrations on an inept and rotten judicial system.
Post by: smurfboy on July 15, 2006, 10:57:53 am
I am probably going to make myself very unpopular by saying this, but I think he was wrong and his resignation should stand. You simply don't go about kissing other people's children, innocently or not. I can't believe someone in a position of respect (however misguided respecting a vicar may be) doesn't have the basic sense to know this.
I'm not suggesting this man is a paedophile, but he was incredibly thoughtless.
Post by: on July 15, 2006, 11:00:13 am
Post by: phyllisbermann on July 15, 2006, 11:35:29 am
Post by: on July 15, 2006, 11:52:46 am
Post by: smurfboy on July 15, 2006, 12:00:08 pm
Post by: on July 15, 2006, 12:02:47 pm
Post by: phyllisbermann on July 15, 2006, 12:08:50 pm
Post by: smurfboy on July 15, 2006, 12:19:35 pm
OK, I thought you liked the Smurfmeister.
That's cool too 
Post by: phyllisbermann on July 15, 2006, 03:04:02 pm