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Chat => General => Topic started by: oldspice on March 30, 2006, 08:14:44 am

Title: ID cards
Post by: oldspice on March 30, 2006, 08:14:44 am

Like it or not, looks like we're going to get them. What does everyone think?

Title: ID cards
Post by: goldencup on March 30, 2006, 08:42:14 am

About time too.

Title: ID cards
Post by: on March 30, 2006, 08:58:37 am

Well, I've got a passport and a credit card so another one wont matter.  Thing is though... just how do they help?

Title: ID cards
Post by: Cherry_Ripe on March 30, 2006, 09:50:22 am

As long as they are not expensive I don't mind. But, like Bounty, I am still unclear as to how useful they will be.

Title: ID cards
Post by: chocolate chick on March 30, 2006, 11:20:02 am

Same here, I don't mind carrying one just as long as they don't cost too much

Title: ID cards
Post by: wjp666 on March 30, 2006, 11:24:35 am

all i can say about that is 1984

Title: ID cards
Post by: Forth Bridges on March 30, 2006, 11:27:08 am

 

althourgh people in Euorpe have had them for ages!, but at the rate its going it going to cost us over £100 to buy one ( COUGH manertoree) to do what? to stop a bunch of benafits cheat when there? yes I'm a cheater I give you my real card

Title: ID cards
Post by: chocolate chick on March 30, 2006, 11:53:25 am

£100!! 

Title: ID cards
Post by: Forth Bridges on March 30, 2006, 11:55:08 am

AND RISEING!!!!

Title: ID cards
Post by: Cherry_Ripe on March 30, 2006, 11:55:53 am

Quote from: wjp666

all i can say about that is 1984

I don't think people who do nothing wrong have anything to worry about.

Title: ID cards
Post by: chocolate chick on March 30, 2006, 12:03:20 pm

Theres nothing on my card which I have to hide. I think they should have the card as a passport and a drivers license as well. Saves the number of things which we need to carry!

Title: ID cards
Post by: Nikkers on March 30, 2006, 03:26:52 pm

£100???!!! Fek!

Title: ID cards
Post by: smurfboy on March 30, 2006, 03:50:06 pm

I don't see why we should have to pay that much for something compulsory - and if they're not going to be compulsory (which some people have suggested) no one the police want to trace/verify will get one!

Title: ID cards
Post by: chocolate chick on March 30, 2006, 04:34:39 pm

And if we do have to pay at least make it a little bit more affordable! 

Title: ID cards
Post by: wjp666 on March 30, 2006, 06:54:15 pm

Quote from: Cherry_Ripe

Quote from: wjp666

all i can say about that is 1984

I don't think people who do nothing wrong have anything to worry about.

the government have used images of terrorism and carnage to promote a danger in this country, and they're now proclaiming that ID cards are the way forward for security etc. this is bollocks. there is zero evidence to suggest cards will make any difference whatsoever. it's just another way for the goverment to control us... to have the authority to make us prove who we are anytime they want. it may not directly affect you or me - but it's a moral standpoint i object to. it's just yet another way to slowly turn this world into a very controlled enviroment to live in.

it's all very 1984. who's to say in 50 years time we wont all be subjected to random, on-the-spot DNA testing to prove who we are? would that be acceptable?

(yes, i know i sound like a ranting paranoid psychotic) 

wjp66638806.7468518519

Title: ID cards
Post by: smurfboy on March 30, 2006, 07:09:35 pm

Any terrorists will be people who entered the country illegally and work cash in hand and manage very nicely without ID cards (and don't tell me there won't be anyone willing to employ without them!) Then if we get another July 7th we'll find that, surprise surprise, the bomber didn't have an ID card!

Title: ID cards
Post by: Forth Bridges on March 30, 2006, 09:00:24 pm

wjip666 no you not!

B: there alot of concisuisay about july 7th!

Title: ID cards
Post by: oldspice on March 30, 2006, 09:39:56 pm

The evening news reported that the chances of us suffereing another terrrorist attack is high and it is just as likely to be carried out by a british citizen as a foreign one. Given that the July 7th bombers actually BLEW THEMSELVES UP, whether they had an identity card or not, the result would have been the same. Somone who wants to blow themselves up will willingly carry a card and someone who is willing to blow other people up will happily carry a card.

Title: ID cards
Post by: Cherry_Ripe on March 31, 2006, 09:40:52 am

Quote from: smurfboy

Any terrorists will be people who entered the country illegally and work cash in hand

Not necessarily. The July 7th bombers were all from England, weren't they?

Title: ID cards
Post by: on March 31, 2006, 09:58:02 am

Yes, everyone in Spain carries ID cards but it didn't prevent the Madrid bombings.  There is NO defense against the suicide bomber -none.  You could issue someone with ten ID cards and if they want to blow themselves up on a train they will.  Tony Blair and his cronies are complete twats.  No I take it back, I like twats.  They are complete bowls of smegma.

Title: ID cards
Post by: wjp666 on March 31, 2006, 11:04:12 am

it's just more ways to take away our natural and civil rights. a similar thing happened in the usa after 9/11... no id cards, but new laws were passed to make it alot easier for police etc. to challenge people in the street and even detail 'suspects' with zero evidence. this is a law which was refused for nearly 30 years due to public outrage - and then suddenly the twin towers go down and it's passed... only this time the public don't disagree because they're terrified with all the terrorist warnings gouing around. read between the lines. id cards will lead to much worse things.

Title: ID cards
Post by: Forth Bridges on March 31, 2006, 11:34:42 am

Any one remember a programme form the BBC called

Power of nightmares?....

 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/3755686.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/3951615.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/3970901.stm

???????

Title: ID cards
Post by: Forth Bridges on March 31, 2006, 02:36:31 pm

no one?

 

Title: ID cards
Post by: loulou on March 31, 2006, 07:51:38 pm

  

Title: ID cards
Post by: smurfboy on April 01, 2006, 02:38:25 am

Quote from: Cherry_Ripe

Quote from: smurfboy

Any terrorists will be people who entered the country illegally and work cash in hand

Not necessarily. The July 7th bombers were all from England, weren't they?

And I suppose that means ID cards would've prevented it?

Title: ID cards
Post by: oldspice on April 01, 2006, 09:42:21 am

Absolutely not. The July bombers would have obtained Id cards.

Title: ID cards
Post by: goldencup on April 01, 2006, 04:34:20 pm

From a purely personal point of view I would welcome ID cards as in my job I constantly have to ask people for ID and they hardly ever have any.

Title: ID cards
Post by: Cherry_Ripe on April 03, 2006, 09:52:31 am

Quote from: goldencup

From a purely personal point of view I would welcome ID cards as in my job I constantly have to ask people for ID and they hardly ever have any.

My mum doesn't drive and hasn't had a passport for years. She wasn't allowed to open a bank account (ISA) because these were the only permitted forms of ID.