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Chat => General => Topic started by: smurfboy on March 10, 2006, 01:53:41 pm

Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: smurfboy on March 10, 2006, 01:53:41 pm

Sorry Oldspice, it's purely in the interests of fairness...


I actually agree with a lot of the criticisms of Nestle; especially what they've done to the likes of Toffee Crisp. But in a world of chocolate were variation is dying out, they've done their bit in keeping it going. Look at all the new Kitkat varieties of recent years (although for some unknown reason, some of the people who were complaining you couldn't get anything different are saying 'there are too many kitkat varieties'! ) Also they have listened to their customers who wanted the Texan back; not seen any old Cadbury or Mars bars back for a long time...

Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: oldspice on March 10, 2006, 02:17:52 pm
Fair enough
Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: chocolate chick on March 10, 2006, 03:09:21 pm
Kit Kats and Jelly Tots
Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: oldspice on March 10, 2006, 05:59:47 pm
Oh yes, I like Jelly Tots too.
Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: goldencup on March 10, 2006, 07:03:59 pm
I had some Fruit Pastilles the other day (first time in ages) and I actually found them too sweet!
Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: oldspice on March 10, 2006, 07:23:38 pm
How's your diet going goldie?
Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: goldencup on March 10, 2006, 09:25:51 pm
Still slow but steady thank you - lost 16 lbs now!
Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: smurfboy on March 11, 2006, 02:52:25 am

Quote from: oldspice
Oh yes, I like Jelly Tots too.


They still bear the Rowntree name so we'll let you off

Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: chocadmin on March 11, 2006, 07:55:48 am
Smurfy's right, Nestle's recent moves (presumably because of Chris White) have done wonders for variety in the market (Mars now following suit with their Galaxy Promises range).
I don't think Nestle are right to blame all their current woes on CW, sounds like he was trying to get them to move in the right direction. Their biggest problem is that consumers have changed, bizarrely at a time when people are supposed to be trying to be healthier sales of big bars (100+ tablets) are up significantly whereas so called countline products are way down (perhaps people buy big bars and make them last longer, where countlines pretty much have to be eaten in one go). Nestle being the big leader in countline with Kit Kat is bound to be hit hard (although apparently Aero sales are up, but perhaps this is the larger Aero bars rather than the countlines).
Question is, with new management and the dumping of loads of staff where are Nestle likely to go now?

Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: oldspice on March 11, 2006, 08:18:06 am

I hope they start to address some of their unethical practices. That goes for my other pet hates too; Disney, Coca Cola, McDonalds and the cigarette companies that are currently peddling their filth to third world twelve year olds.


As for Mars, personally their recent launches such as Mars Delight and Promises have not hit the sopt for me. My hubbie kindly bought me a Promises Coffee bar and it was terrible. There were horrible gritty bits in it

Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: goldencup on March 11, 2006, 10:01:43 am
What is the problem with Disney Oldspice?  I'm genuinely interested.
Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: on March 11, 2006, 10:28:53 am

They portray dogs e.g Pluto has being subordinate to Mice (Mickey Mouse).  This flagrant speciesism is unacceptable in a modern society.


Or something

Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: loulou on March 11, 2006, 11:26:33 am
Nah I think it's acceptable.
Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: oldspice on March 11, 2006, 12:53:27 pm

Disney have a long history of infringing employment laws (old man Disney refused to allow his staff to belong to a union). They were also found to be allowing small children and other people to be employed (under contract and sub contract) under terrible conditions making items, especially clothing, for their stores. They choose places like Cambodia for items to be made because labour is cheap and conditions are very, very bad.


If that is not enough, they portray history in a very distorted manner, sometimes blatenly bending the truth to make America and the American dream seem pure as driven snow (Pocohontas for example).


Don't get me started!!!!

Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: on March 11, 2006, 12:53:29 pm
I like Nestle's variety if not always their actual chocolate quality. Strangely Double chocolate and cream seem to be disappearing. Is this an indication of the great British public's palette?
Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: chocolate chick on March 11, 2006, 03:44:09 pm

  

Quote from: goldencup
Still slow but steady thank you - lost 16 lbs now!


You Go GirlThats fantastic!


 







Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: smurfboy on March 11, 2006, 03:51:13 pm
Quote from: oldspice

If that is not enough, they portray history in a very distorted manner, sometimes blatenly bending the truth to make America and the American dream seem pure as driven snow (Pocohontas for example).


Don't get me started!!!!



Spicy have you seen the film of The Scarlet Letter? The minister lives and he and Hester run off together to live happily ever after!

Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: kevvosa on March 11, 2006, 04:01:04 pm

I also think it's good that they are trying new things, Kitkat Editions, Caramac Kitkats and Sticky Toffee Aero have all been welcome changes.


But at the same time they should also improve the taste and quality of their products. Ie. the chocolate should be creamier and more distinctive.

Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: oldspice on March 11, 2006, 05:18:46 pm
Sticky Toffee Aero? I thought it was poison! I've rarely tasted anything so vile. Still, each to his/her own as they say!
Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: on March 11, 2006, 08:38:44 pm

Quote from: oldspice
Sticky Toffee Aero? I thought it was poison! I've rarely tasted anything so vile. Still, each to his/her own as they say!


Yes it should have been a big caramel one.cool

Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: kevvosa on March 12, 2006, 10:41:44 am

Quote from: oldspice
Sticky Toffee Aero? I thought it was poison! I've rarely tasted anything so vile. Still, each to his/her own as they say!


It's the only Aero bar apart from Aero Caramel that I really like. I agree it's a bit sweet but I have a sweet tooth. The worst Aero flavour was Irish Cream I think.

Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: chocadmin on March 12, 2006, 11:35:59 pm
I think the disappearance of double cream is simply it didn't sell well, double chocolate was pretty good i thought. But Nestle missed a trick in making the big bars of those products just one big slab, no-one (apart from us chocophiles) eats a whole big bar in one go so making double cream and double chocolate into breakable chunks would've been far more popular.
Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: Forth Bridges on March 13, 2006, 12:01:30 am

well all I can say is YEs Nesstel is far better than Carbursy in art of chocalate! but yet there have destory many old favoirates like Rolos, and lion bar etc....


how can you give them the any greatness for that!


I can';t say mcuh but I have also tasted the differents betwen old / new type bars ( YEsI was only 10 years odl ) 10 years ago but I can still tasted the differents!


Let be honsted! it can be down to oen man if the quilty of service goes out the window! and there start using cheaper ingendents to cut costs!


just becasue we liek "SWEETS" does not mean we can;t tell the differents between for EG: puffin / pinguen! or a kit kat & a time out!


those company make millions of sweets bars a year and yet think only kids buy there crap! and that why there product control went out the window YEARS ago! if ther bothe rto use GODO quilty product there might not to load full of rubbish & E number to hills!


 


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Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: smurfboy on March 13, 2006, 03:36:00 pm

Quote from: chocadmin
I think the disappearance of double cream is simply it didn't sell well, double chocolate was pretty good i thought. But Nestle missed a trick in making the big bars of those products just one big slab, no-one (apart from us chocophiles) eats a whole big bar in one go so making double cream and double chocolate into breakable chunks would've been far more popular.


Has it definitely been discontinued? I noticed it wasn't around as much, but Double Cream eggs are everywhere - surely you don't ditch the bar and bring back the variation?

Title: Pro-Nestle thread
Post by: chocadmin on March 14, 2006, 12:20:20 pm
Double cream was supposed to be dropped. My hope is double chocolate will continue.