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Title: GEORGE BEST
Post by: smurfboy on November 25, 2005, 02:04:22 pm
Does anyone else find it distasteful how the media have held a public countdown to his death? 'The latest is George Best could die at any moment' screamed our local radio station yesterday. Some of the papers were just as bad. I half-expected to see an electronic death clock online, or a live stream direct from the hospital bed. Why couldn't the poor man have been allowed to die in peace - did we really need twice-hourly bulletins?
Title: GEORGE BEST
Post by: loulou on November 25, 2005, 02:25:33 pm
I agree smurfy. I wish the press would leave him and his family alone.
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Post by: oldspice on November 25, 2005, 05:17:19 pm

When I was a kid we used to chant


Georgie Best, Superstar!


Lift up your shirt and show us your bra!


He was the greatest, most talented player of his generation and drop dead gorgeous too.


His end was self-inflicted but I can't helping shedding a little tear for those deep blues eyes, and that awesome talent.


Rest in peace Georgie Best. xxx

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Post by: chocolate chick on November 29, 2005, 10:35:03 am
Quote from: smurfboy
Does anyone else find it distasteful how the media have
held a public countdown to his death? 'The latest is George Best could
die at any moment' screamed our local radio station yesterday. Some of
the papers were just as bad. I half-expected to see an electronic death
clock online, or a live stream direct from the hospital bed. Why
couldn't the poor man have been allowed to die in peace - did we really
need twice-hourly bulletins?




Well said smurfy! Every news bulletin
I heard was @george Best hours from death'. You could almost hear the
excitment in their voice. It was a bit sick.

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Post by: StrollingMinstrel on December 06, 2005, 08:26:50 pm

Is it just me who's an old softy, but I actually saw some of George Best Funeral on TV and felt quite moved.


As a person it didn't make much difference to me that he had died, I thought it was a bit sad but that's all, but when I saw the funeral I felt a real sense of warmth from the friends and doctors that spoke about him with genuine affection. And the songs were really poignant..... The long and winding road, beautifully sang.

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Post by: oldspice on December 07, 2005, 06:39:31 am

Georgie Best was a hero of my childhood. I felt terribly moved by his funeral and yes, I too felt that glow of warmth for the high regard that people had for him  - as a person and a sportsman. 


It affected me much more than Princess Di's death. I thought that was totally over the top. People went completely bonkers - buying 50 copies of Candle in the Wind and wasting all that money on flowers when it could have been put to better use. She'd have hated all that.

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Post by: chocolate chick on December 07, 2005, 08:41:57 am
I agree, there was a great sense of warmth from his funeral, he was a
well loved man. I felt a lump in my throat when Callum Best took to the
stand.



Man Utd paid a great tribute to him before the win at Portsmouth.


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Post by: lemoneye on December 07, 2005, 12:51:14 pm
Times have changed and football has changed. Not sure he would have the same impact in todays game. It's always sad when anyone dies, but to escape a self inflicted death through drink once and do it again? That is a severe addiction. And very scary.
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Post by: on December 07, 2005, 08:08:08 pm

George Best.  In life mecurial footballer with amazing talent or alcoholic wife beater?


Either way the media attention of his dying hours was disproportionate, disrespectful and undignified.  May he rest in peace.


When we come to remembering great footballers might I remind people of three words.  Sir Stanley Matthews.

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Post by: lemoneye on December 08, 2005, 08:23:01 am
Great skill AND dignity. Well said BH
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Post by: loulou on December 08, 2005, 12:33:33 pm
what's mecurial?
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Post by: chocolate chick on December 08, 2005, 01:49:10 pm
Good question 
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Post by: Cherry_Ripe on December 08, 2005, 03:21:38 pm
I suspect it's supposed to be "mercurial" ... lively and unpredicatable in other words  
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Post by: goldencup on December 08, 2005, 04:41:59 pm

The plot thickens - what is 'unpredicatable'?

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Post by: goldencup on December 08, 2005, 04:48:56 pm

Bounty mentions Sir Stanley Matthews but what about Bobby Moore?  Captained England to World Cup victory amongst other achievements, died of cancer and nobody made much fuss about his funeral that I remember.


"He was my friend as well as the greatest defender I ever played against. The world has lost one of it's greatest football players and an honourable gentleman." Pele

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Post by: smurfboy on December 08, 2005, 05:18:32 pm

If were talking about people wronged in the world of football, what about Justin Fashanu? No minute's silence for him when he died. Sure, Gazza is a drunken wife-beater and thug, but still considered a hero, the great Bestie's problems were largely self-inflicted, Graham Rix is a convicted sex offender yet still got the manager's job at Hearts - but god forbid anyone should acknowledge a gay man played the game.

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Post by: oldspice on December 08, 2005, 05:30:40 pm

I never rated Gazza. Pele was awesome, probably the best player I've ever seen on the pitch. Bobby Moore was a great talent also. Last summer Peterborough United played Manchester United's first team in a friendly in honour of the great repect that Barry Fry (PU) and Alex Ferguson (MU) have for each other. The palyer who out-played them all was Van Nistelroy (I can't spell his name!). Totally stunning.


We held them to a 0 - 0 draw until half time them they slaughtered us 0 6.

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Post by: on December 08, 2005, 08:23:54 pm

You got me bang to rights Lou, I meant Mercurial.  It was a typo, I know how to spell it.


I think we have strayed from the point slightly.  I didn't deliberately disclude Bobby Moore but he wasn't as good a footballer as Best and certainly not as good as Matthews who was not only a fantastic all round talent but was also phenomenally fit and well ahead of his time in terms of his vision of the game.


Gazza was a good footballer but not in the same league as even Moore.  Justin Fashanu was a good player and it was tragic the way he died.  The fact that he was gay is neither here or there. 


As for Pele.  Well...

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Post by: smurfboy on December 08, 2005, 08:27:39 pm

Well why did they ignore him when everyone else gets a minutes silence? Hell, if the man who marks out the pitch dies they have a minutes silence!

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Post by: on December 08, 2005, 09:52:04 pm
Bobby Moore should have got a minute's silence if that's who you mean by 'he'.  If he didn't it was a poor show.
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Post by: goldencup on December 08, 2005, 09:54:35 pm
I think he meant Fashanu.  I wouldn't say that Bobby Moore was a less good player than Best - he was a defender so not so noticeable - or good looking!. 
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Post by: on December 08, 2005, 10:00:14 pm
I don't think Fashanu was high profile enough for a minute's silence.  That's not my opinion just a perception. 
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Post by: oldspice on December 09, 2005, 07:05:10 am

We are all too young to remember Billy Wright but I have seen film of him playing in the 50s and he too was a fantastic player.


Fashanu was terrific but like Best, his private life ecplised his football career.

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Post by: goldencup on December 09, 2005, 08:46:25 am
A lot of people were of the opinion that my husband's distant cousin would have been the greatest player of all time.  He was one of the Busby Babes killed in the air crash - Duncan Edwards.  I have a video about him but have never actually got round to watching it!
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Post by: loulou on December 11, 2005, 10:47:29 pm

PETER TATCHELL says it was homophobia that ultimately destroyed the career and life of football star Justin Fashanu.

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Post by: oldspice on December 12, 2005, 07:05:40 am
I am sure he is right. However, I do not approve of Tatchell's methods of 'outing' people as homosexuals. If they want to reveal their sexuality, that's fine, but it's not up to Tatchell top do it for them.
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Post by: loulou on December 12, 2005, 10:03:27 am
That's very true.
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Post by: smurfboy on December 12, 2005, 01:54:37 pm
The only circumstances in which I think it was fair was with certain MPs who voted in favour of the evil Section 28 and against an equal age of consent. That kind of hypocrisy deserves 'punishment'. If people are just happily getting on with their lives and value their privacy I think that should be respected.
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Post by: oldspice on December 12, 2005, 04:41:12 pm
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Post by: loulou on December 12, 2005, 09:31:51 pm