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Chat => General => Topic started by: frooty on July 18, 2005, 09:16:25 pm

Title: Iraq
Post by: frooty on July 18, 2005, 09:16:25 pm

OK, so Saddam Hussein has gone, but can anyone put their hands on their hearts and tell me that Iraq is a better place for USA and it's puppy the UK going to bomb it?  Gone is the evil regime - it has been replaced by an evil anarchy.  The bloodshed coming out of this country is appalling and there is very litle end in sight. 

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Post by: on July 18, 2005, 09:20:17 pm

Phew!  Heavy stuff

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Post by: loulou on July 18, 2005, 09:54:02 pm

I was in a quite cheery mood tonight til I came and read this.

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Post by: maggiemay on July 21, 2005, 05:59:55 pm

The Uk is no puppy and Korea has nuclear weapons.

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Post by: smurfboy on July 21, 2005, 06:02:11 pm

And that's got what exactly to do with Iraq??

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Post by: oldspice on July 21, 2005, 10:24:00 pm

Look at the post. Frooty comes from Korea.

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Post by: lemoneye on July 22, 2005, 10:01:42 am

I do hope none of the "chocolate social front" are going to say anything about Korea.

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Post by: smurfboy on July 22, 2005, 10:43:22 am

Quote from: oldspice

Look at the post. Frooty comes from Korea.

Yes, but I doubt very much he comes from North Korea, which is the country with the nuclear weapons. South Korea is completely different.

Title: Iraq
Post by: smurfboy on July 22, 2005, 11:01:30 am

Quote from: maggiemay

The Uk is no puppy and Korea has nuclear weapons.

Also, what does that have to do with Frooty? Do you blame him for anything the Korean regime does wrong?

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Post by: oldspice on July 22, 2005, 12:52:10 pm

Oh dear. Maggiemay and I have upset some people! Look, I've not nothing against anyone from Korea and I was very strongly against the invasion of Iraq. It's ok to talk politics alongside chocolate and have a moan and all that. However, I do take exception to someone who has hardly debated any chocolate topics passing moral judgement on us in the UK who may have strongly objected to the bombing but are nevertheless being branded for the act. We ordinary people are no more responsible for the bombing than Frooty is for the nuclear weapons in any part of Korea. See my point?

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Post by: lemoneye on July 22, 2005, 12:56:54 pm

I do see your point Oldspice. However, (and i am not pointing in your direction) there is a terrible amount of double and sometimes triple standardry on here when we are talking non chocolate.

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Post by: oldspice on July 22, 2005, 02:16:40 pm

Yes, I agree. Everybody stops talking chocolate (me especially) at times, but you can't just come on here, say a bit about liking a chocolate bar, then condem all people in the Uk for an act of their government without even finding out whether people supported it.

I actually agree with Frooty. the bombing of Iraq achieved little except more bloodshed and the passing of one evil regime for another - but i am not responsible!

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Post by: lemoneye on July 22, 2005, 02:31:55 pm

I agree Oldspice - one regime had to go - but when (as it appears to the casual observer) that the whole place is rotten to the core - there is little that can be done and is best left well alone! (Which is maybe why Mugabe, Amin, Gadaffi etc were all left to their own devices to the detriment of their people for so long.)

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Post by: oldspice on July 22, 2005, 02:47:39 pm

Yes- and did they have any oil?

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Post by: lemoneye on July 22, 2005, 03:24:24 pm

No, i dont think they did. Idi Amin could have laid claim to introducing AIDS to the world (were he not dead) - it did originate in Uganda didn't it? Or was it Ghana? No oil though. I am in favour of removing all world leaders (especially those in feudal areas) and replacing them with easy to manage monthly payment - sorry (damn you Carol Vorderman) replace them with one benevolent dictator. Should work fine until i die... no guarantee my son(s) (assuming the one on the way is a boy) would be as benevolent as me....

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Post by: frooty on July 22, 2005, 09:12:49 pm

By the way, I am a woman not a he.  Will post later must start work now.

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Post by: oldspice on July 23, 2005, 09:08:40 am

Lemoneye - would you consider Castro a benevolent dictator? Despite what some Americans and those who claimed to have "escaped" from Cuba (ie mostly people whom Cuba would consider undesirable because they want to exploit those around them) say, it seems to be a very successful, mildy communist system that provides excellent health care, education and housing. Although the people could never be considered "loaded" they have everything they need and seem very content.

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Post by: on July 23, 2005, 01:43:43 pm

I have always given Castro the benefit of the doubt.  He is the victim of a huge amount of American propoganda.  Cuba is an excellent tourist destination.

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Post by: loulou on July 23, 2005, 01:54:18 pm

Have you been?

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Post by: lemoneye on July 23, 2005, 02:18:48 pm

I have never been but i know a number of people who have and i have heard mixed reports. Obviously a haven for smuggling and drugs due to the low incomes, people are known, and in fact it is common to have 3 or more jobs... Whilst i agree, good healthcare and excellent tourism... Cuba is still a communist country and bound by the rules of tradition - ie corruption and the famous line - all animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others...

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Post by: loulou on July 23, 2005, 02:44:57 pm

I don't fancy going there

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Post by: goldencup on July 23, 2005, 04:53:08 pm

My nieces went there last year and had a great time.

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Post by: loulou on July 23, 2005, 05:21:11 pm

See now all of a sudden i change my mind and think I'd like to go. That's the gemini coming out in me. I'm either fickle or indecisive.

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Post by: goldencup on July 23, 2005, 05:31:39 pm

But you can't decide which!

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Post by: loulou on July 23, 2005, 08:50:09 pm

Erm. I'll toss a coin.

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Post by: loulou on July 25, 2005, 06:38:27 pm

I've heard Cuba is a good place for storing your nuclear weapons.

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Post by: on July 25, 2005, 07:45:37 pm

Is it???

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Post by: loulou on July 25, 2005, 09:37:19 pm

So I've heard